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[–] menas@lemmy.wtf 24 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

That does not magically appears in Europe, but the victories thanks to strong unionism and revolutionary unionism. The same that was directly attacked by the US government in the 1920's

[–] uis@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Fun fact: October Revolution haappened in Europe

[–] Yash12345@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Like can you gave examples

[–] scaredoftrumpwinning@lemmy.world 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I work for a company with both European and American employees. Even the European employees didn't know how bad it was, and we work for the same employer. I hope I can live till retirement and not get diagnosed with cancer the day after like my Dad. Would be nice to do something those last years if there's a planet left, I have some money and my body isn't broken.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 2 points 1 hour ago

I'm getting closer to retirement age and still have no money. I am trying to pull off the miracle of having a paid off house by then though.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 22 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Trump is gonna make it all better. And by better I mean worse. FAR worse.

[–] jeze3d@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

You guys are getting a retirement?

[–] 96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 25 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Yash12345@lemmy.world -3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Because all European firms are situated around the globe and follow their vacations.

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 4 points 52 minutes ago

Not at all. We just have better working conditions. I get 28 days because it's the law in my country.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 7 hours ago

Andorra is based somehow

[–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 148 points 1 day ago (3 children)

The biggest reason to knock off working on vacation or after hours is that it creates a false expectation on the the workload. If you can't get it done during regular office hours, than that means your company needs more people or a process improvement.

If you are working these extra untracked hours, you are the problem. If you get rewarded for doing so, your company is toxic and will only expect more as you move up the ladder.

[–] GetOffMyLan@programming.dev 3 points 51 minutes ago

The biggest reason is because it's not work time. End of.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 10 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I've worked at plenty of places which have made it fairly clear that the only way you can progress up in the company is to work out of hours. Extremely illegal business practice but they did it anyway.

One of the places was a law firm, because lawyers always think that they know how to break the law.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 46 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I told a manager that, if you work 60h a week, you don't know how to do you job. I slipped in that hourly payment isn't terrible either if you do so.

He never bothered to try to make me work "for free" ever again.

[–] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 24 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

No one on there deathbed will say they wish they worked harder. They will regret all the other moments they missed because they were working too much.

Time is more than just money, it's your life.

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[–] Blaster_M@lemmy.world 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

When you can't afford to move but you live on the Florida coast

[–] Entropywins@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can't tell, but that's her living room...

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 6 points 22 hours ago

Actualy we can tell because it's wet

[–] ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world 13 points 23 hours ago

Sell their houses to whom, Ben? Fucking Aquamen?

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[–] jqubed@lemmy.world 117 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I felt even more like I was getting a raw deal when I realized the Germans and French were largely taking the entire month of August off.

[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

They what? Why didn't any of my fellow Germans tell me?

Most jobs, at least the better paying ones, include 6 weeks of vacation. However, you can use them all at once.

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[–] ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I never take august because of this. EVERYONE and their mothers take august so everything is crowded and extremely overpriced.

I prefer getting some time in september and then spread the rest of my days the rest of the year.

[–] Chev@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How to know that somebody has no children without telling you

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[–] Rinox@feddit.it 17 points 1 day ago

Germans and French vacations are a lot more spread out than this.

In Italy instead it's pretty much mandatory to take vacations in August, as whole industry sectors close down for 2-3 weeks. Factories go on a hiatus beginning from the second week of August to the start of the fourth week, or the end of the month.

Sometimes it's surreal when you stay home in August and the whole city is deserted, no one to be seen, no traffic, no noise, just scorching heat. At least in the North, in the south it's the exact opposite, with everyone going to the sea and the population doubling overnight at the start of August.

June and July instead are pretty much taken by the Germans, especially around the lakes of the North.

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[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 66 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I’m just one of countless victims of the launch of the cell phone in North American IT. This shit kills. Figurative and literally.

24 hour reachability is 24 hour work. Shit accumulates and all of a sudden you haven’t actually relaxed in 20 years and you get phantom phone vibrations.

Funny enough I wear a pager for 1/4 of my life now. But it’s totally fine because there’s on then off. Work days and not work days. Day and night. Work and life.

[–] mrvictory1@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Were you paid properly for overtime?

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 2 points 41 minutes ago

I'm salaried, but get paid per hour every time I'm on call.

[–] uis@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

In every country it's a salary except america. And I guess you wasn't.

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago (4 children)

European cell phone adoption was about on par with the US. I don't think the technology is completely to blame here.

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[–] Denvil@lemmy.one 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I work as an electrician on a construction site, and one of the greatest perks of the job is that you leave it there. It's not like you can work from home in the first place, and we don't really have shifts. Everybody comes in at the same time and leaves at the same time, so you don't have to bother with covering extra shifts.

That isn't to say it's a dream job of course, the perks are great, but the work itself will probably bite me in the ass later with health issues...

[–] Pretzilla@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

PPE buddy - personally protect yourself

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

I was on call 24/7 for years. It's been a long time since I had to deal with that (with a slide into a related career rather than changing careers) but I will never forget how terrible it was. I wasted what should have been my best years on that shit.

Now there's only one person at work who has my number. He doesn't call except for the one time I forgot to put my day off on the calendar. My work apps are paused at 5pm and all weekend. I only get alerts on my computer. However, I still twitch sometimes when my phone goes off after hours because it was a learned and deeply reinforced response for so many years.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 16 points 23 hours ago

Well I've just been paid to start drinking at 3:00 p.m. because apparently I haven't taken enough holiday this year.

Sucks to be free I guess.

[–] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I stopped going to dinner with my wife and her father when he's in town. We will go to a restaurant and he'll pull out his laptop and phone and start working, while vaguely listening to what we're saying

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 26 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Gonna go take a bath with my work laptop if anyone needs me.

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[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Labour laws my dude! When the government protect people and not corporations. I can just ignore them for 60 days a year and it's cheaper to accept than fire me

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[–] fibojoly@sh.itjust.works 7 points 21 hours ago

You think I wait for holidays to be unavailable? :,D

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