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She got half of Burgerland to think that everything they don't like is Russian propaganda, that the evil Russians helped Trump steal the 2016 election, Russia Russia Russia, it's the ultimate thought-terminating cliche now. And even in the face of cold, hard evidence to the contrary (ie: Mueller report, off the top of my head) Libs just stomp their feet and insist that it's still RUSSIAAAAA!!!!!1

I guess Bill O'Riely would be the Republican equivalent of her, but his oafishness and toxic masculinity got the best of him and he ~~ended up losing everything~~ got a multi-million dollar severance package from Fox News and then faded into irrelevancy.

Seriously though, I can't think of anybody that could rival Maddow in terms of how effectively she brainwashed tens of millions of Burgerlanders into believing an absolute, absurd fantasy. You can't have anything that resembles a level-headed discussion with any Lib anymore, largely due to her influence (and others of course, but I feel like she's the most prominent figure in this regard).

Can you think of anyone that could rival her impact? Who else would be in the same league of propagandists in this day?

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[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 3 points 25 minutes ago

I thought people were memeing about how much she blames everything on Russia until I watched a couple of clips of her

[–] kittin@hexbear.net 4 points 46 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago)

Red MAGA propaganda - can you believe the libs think they know better than us, rage

Blue MAGA propaganda - we libs know better than them, rage

Synthesis: red libs who know better than everyone how to loot the country by enraging everyone as a distraction

[–] Feline@hexbear.net 8 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Ehhhh that's giving her waaaaaaaaaaay too much credit. Not many people watch MSNBC

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago

Yeah this is insane and would imply Maddow is good at what she does lol there’s not many burgers who give a shit about Russian interference

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 18 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

It's plausible that Russia preferred Trump to his Democratic rivals, and did a little bit of trolling to fuck with America. But only to the tune of 0.1% of their military budget, not the 20% of GDP it would take to get anywhere near what BlueMAGA keeps accusing.

[–] LanyrdSkynrd@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

My impression is it's less about pushing Trump and more about causing conflict within the US. There were Internet Research Agency(commonly called a troll farm) linked accounts pushing both sides of the COVID stuff, both sides during the BLM protests, etc.

Dems blaming things on Russian disinformation plays right into that goal, too. If you want to rile up the US populace, make people feel like everyone they disagree with is brainwashed by evil outside forces. Republicans did the same shit with TikTok, blaming China for young leftists, trans people, etc.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Well Kamala's campaign spent over 1 billion dollars and it didn't seem to make any difference che-laugh

[–] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 10 points 2 hours ago

That had to be money laundering.

[–] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 33 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

i feel like it's a mistake to let the face of these operations have too much credit. This is a performance, and it is an editorial team that sets her agenda, it's a crew that manages her image, and it's the network that gives her the platform - the personalities of these people are there for your consumption and an icon you're encouraged to relate to and see as a teacher.

A friendly feminine presence who is there every night to tell you how to be an obedient little liberal

but never forget she's just a performer in an ensemble.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 49 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I guess Bill O'Riely would be the Republican equivalent of her

Wrong, Bill is the shoulders which Rachel stands on. Every cable news talking head is copying his game. Bill walked so Tucker could run. He's only irrelevant now because he accelerated the american conservative past him.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 30 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I'd even go so far as to say he's a couple rungs down in terms of history. Tucker is standing on Glen Beck who is standing on O'Rielly.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 18 points 7 hours ago (6 children)

This although Beck was standing on the shoulders of Alex Jones more than O'Reilly

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 23 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Regardless of the order, whoever is standing on Alex Jones is standing on his roid gut, not his shoulders.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 20 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I cast Spicy Chili at the Roidgoblin

Roll for damage

[–] Weedian@hexbear.net 10 points 5 hours ago

Critical failure: you forget the names of your children

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Fair enough, though O'Reilly was always kinda cribbing from Jones. He just never had the intensity. If we want to go that route though then they are all standing on Rush Limbaugh. As for who was most effective of the lot, hard to say.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

Also not to forget Art Bell of Coast to Coast AM fame, whom I just learned while relistening to (I think) a Qanon Anonymous episode apparently died in a shootout with the cops just after 9/11 lmao.

[–] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Opioid overdose. 2018

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[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 50 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

John Stewart was a cheerleader for norms and civility from about 2002-2015. He defined what as worthy of ridicule (Kucinich, Chelsea Manning, occupy movement) and ultimately what was worthy of respect .

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 27 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

What was his problem with Chelsea Manning lmao

[–] chungusamonugs@hexbear.net 45 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I think it was something like "yeah war crimes are bad, but leaking secrets that put service members in danger is unacceptable." It's civility, but with the chain of command.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 3 points 2 hours ago

Sure their job is to be endangered and every boot worshipper is constantly using that as justification for why they should be the only ones with rights and shit, but also hOW DARE anything put them in danger.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 35 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Ahh yes the old "endangering the troops" hobby horse they trot out to silence dissent, protest, or opposition. A charge they never level against the generals and emperors, kings and presidents, and fitting because of the topic of this thread, propagandists. The ones responsible for putting the troops in harms way to begin with.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 31 points 8 hours ago (2 children)
[–] HoiPolloi@hexbear.net 14 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The picture of Abu Ghraib and the Collateral Murder video radicalised young me to the point where that's my reaction.

Why isn't it an emoji?

[–] Feline@hexbear.net 4 points 2 hours ago

I think Chelsea served more time than any of the abu ghraib torturers (And obviously the commanders actually responsible for abu ghraib were never held responsible)

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 5 hours ago

It's been requested a couple of times but @WhyEssEff@hexbear.net won't do it angery

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[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 14 points 7 hours ago

Back before I was an ML I knew a few PMC liberal types who listened to Rachel Maddow. Yes, those individuals were the worst humans one could imagine. But what used to shock me was how non-Amerikans would listen for an hour (?) each day about Russian electoral interference.

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