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It seems to really have alienated a number of people and prevented them from posting. This is a great shame because I felt that hexbears’s momentum and place of online leftism was really starting to shine in the days after the election. This is the most important time for there to be an alternative on the left and we’re wasting it, with what appears to be the start of another struggle session caused by mods unilaterally deciding things.

I don’t really have a solution or more to say, more just this dump of feelings

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[–] TeraByteMarx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, I was on the revleft forum for a few years and the vibe that eventually caused that forum to collapse (mainly mods and admins taking their contribution and themselves way too seriously) seems rampant here. Who wants to enter a community with such a high level of infighting, it's awkward. Still better than a lot of other spaces but just kinda sad because it could be much better

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

i think you're misattributing, posting goes up and down all the time. people are making a big scare over 'less posting is happening' when there are far more active users now on average than ever before. i think you notice the lack of content more if you're on hexbear too much, so you really feel the time in between posts. thats my personal experience at least. I suggest logging off for large portions of the day, and coming back when comfortable.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 105 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Just keep posting. If the poster ahead of you should upvote the wrong post and be banned, pick up their keyboard and press onwards

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 56 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Starting to think that all of us sharing one keyboard may be a reason for the lack of posts. We need to bolster the production of keyboards in the next five year plan.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

Smh, we don't even have enough accounts for all the users

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[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)
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[–] Sophie@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

not being allowed to bully libs has really ruined the soul of this subreddit (website), bring back hexbear cyberbullying pls doggirl-tears

[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 85 points 1 day ago

Nothing more leftist than fucking up the vibes for no reason at the worst possible time.

[–] Palacegalleryratio@hexbear.net 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah, I’m not exactly a power poster. I just like hexbear as Reddit but with far less shitty politics and cooperate astroturfing. However with these moderation struggle sessions I just find hexbear is less appealing. Hexbear is clearly a very important space to some people and who are getting very upset over things. And I think these events between these users and mods are chilling the community. It’s not a warm welcoming space to bring in new users and encourage interaction and exploring the community. Imagine your first interaction with the site: you open it up and the front page is all pinned posts about stupid drama. Even as a reasonably regular user I haven’t got time to read them and frankly don’t wish to. I’m sure I can’t be the only one who feels this way.

FWIW on the current issue, I think upvotes are good for surfacing interesting content. That’s why Reddit was so good, it crowdsources the curation. A million users is a better sorter of content than a desk of moderators acting as content editors. They’re open to manipulation sure. But I’m not seeing too many issues on hexbear.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i almost never open the megas.. too much crap to sift thru

ya ive tried and for whatever reason they just don’t jive w my brain systems

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 51 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I haven't really noticed. Probably because I mostly ignore struggle sessions.

[–] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

You're too busy posting to get bogged down! Plus, what self respecting owl would be hanging out in a bog anyway

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 59 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sure it was the struggle session? Even now I feel the details of the session fading away like fingerprints on an abandoned handrail

I feel like it's more post-election malaise, same thing happened back in 2020 after Biden won, alot of bored posting, and I'm leavin, I'm back, I'm leavin, I'm back posts too

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I feel like the almost back-to-back "Dunk Tank" struggle session and then "Upvote Ban" struggle session probably burned a lot of people up. :/

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago

then "Upvote Ban" struggle session

I completely missed that one, but since neither of them come close to the vegan debacle of 2021, I feel it's safe to assume the site will survive this short period of unrest

Like I said before, I think alot of these micromanaging debates over forum engineering stem from a misplaced frustration with the state of the world AS WELL as the continuing failure of federation over a year after it's launch, on top of the embarrassing and increasing 4chan-fication of lemmy as a whole

[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 36 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I definetly think the struggle session had some impact but I've personally been posting less because I hacked my 3DS and have been playing DQ7 nonstop.

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 76 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I've tried my best to stay out of the struggle sessions but it feels like the mods keep doing foolish things and pissing off people more and more. HB does feel a lot slower and I hope it's not because people are afraid to upbear/post.

[–] AmericaDelendaEst@hexbear.net 62 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

look i love this stupid website and the admins do good work but also their motto is "if it ain't broke, absolutely fuck with it"

countless such instances

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 26 points 1 day ago

Everyone keeps saying it

[–] real@hexbear.net 49 points 1 day ago

It absolutely is, there has been a strong decline in site activity since the struggle sesh. Hexbear was among the most active I’ve seen directly beforehand.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

I didn't even notice that Hexbear died.

I missed the struggle. What happened?

[–] Yukiko@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it's more that a lot of posts are getting consolidated into the megas. Which is good, but also bad.

[–] SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 50 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nah it's bad. Megas are cool for general discussion, but a forum like this relies on standalone posts. Otherwise, you're just making a discord server with extra steps. And there's a reason I'm here and not on discord ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Yukiko@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago

Hence the bad part. The good part is that each individual comm can modify the rules to its needs.

[–] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Idk, I've been interacting less since I started using matrix a lot more, though I was never a capital P Poster. Turns out the Internet keeps re-discovering that yes in fact chat rooms are the most personal way to hang out and be social together. Alor at least I keep rediscovering it for myself. I'm not leaving any time soon though.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i just feel like i can't keep up with chat rooms. i used to love them. but i work such long hours

here i can have a slow moving short conversation over many days between shifts. sure it's not as personal, and feels kind of drive-by.

i recognize lots of people here but takes years to get to know anyone. but yeah back in the early days of chatrooms i made some RL relationships. deep ones. some leading to in person meetups

learned about my queerness, transness. so yeah i do miss that.

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[–] Ivysaur@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

chat rooms and web forums. no more no less. kill ur inner like button. destroy character limits. Be free

Reject modernity embrace tradition but the good kind.

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Time to start a new struggle session

Um i think pineapple is good on pizza

[–] Aradina@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)
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[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 43 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Yeah it has been slow. Sucks. Genuinely are little concerned that we've reached a fulcrum, and without further action we're about to see the spiral of slower boards-->fewer people bothering to check Hexbear-->even slower boards-->new people who stumble upon HB who would otherwise have joined now just see it as kind of slow and empty like lemmygrad-->death

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[–] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Which one? Deleting the dunk tank or the other one?

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[–] red_stapler@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The news mega is poppin; God’s in His heaven All ’s right with the world!

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

The news post poppin is always a cause for alarm, but at least I know when the nukes are fired, we will die posting

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[–] Gorb@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's ok I'm gonna post butts to bring everyone back

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[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

Every struggle session is like this. Folks will trickle back in with alts and mostly it'll be fine.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago (5 children)

it'll be okay. make some GOOD posts

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 23 points 1 day ago

No only-throw only badposts

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