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[–] realitista@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I doubt crabs could make it as an intelligent interplanetary species. I mean claws are cool and all, but really tough to use tools with.

[–] fishbone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

Sure, but have you ever tried to disarm a crab and lived to tell the tale?

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

What is this "crabbification" evolution trend you speak of?

Intelligence favours dexterity of making/holding weapons and tools. Claws are not as good. Armour is always a nice to have, but the offense from weapons use from "hands" is better. I do like the idea of 360 rotating "eye arms" to catch backstabbers. Maybe more arms and legs.

[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space -1 points 3 hours ago

A meme consisting of text is not a meme.

You need a picture too.

No, a picture of text doesn't count.

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 15 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

But what if the human form is a prerequisite for evolving into the space age? We wouldn't need so many tools if we were strong as a crab to begin with

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I've never seen a crab measure thousandths of an inch, or back a Phillip's head screw out of a hole with their crab strength. Tools are still required.

[–] letsgo@lemm.ee 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I've seen a wasp unscrew a screw I thought was in pretty tight.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

What am asshole!

[–] lowleveldata@programming.dev 7 points 11 hours ago

The premise is that they won't invent advanced things such as screws because the survival pressure is less intense

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] infinite_ass@leminal.space 1 points 6 hours ago

There are sexy lizards

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 9 points 13 hours ago

Funny to think about it: Crabs are a huge local maximum of peak evolution

[–] UmeU@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] half_fiction@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Taste like crab, talk like people.

[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Crab people. Crab people.

[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 13 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

A fairly small number of known species evolved to the vaguely humanoid form, but 100% of known species with a human level of higher intelligence have had roughly this body plan, it's really not unreasonable to extrapolate that this could be a common body plan for intelligent aliens.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 6 points 8 hours ago

Taken more seriously, having the evolutionary background to have:

  • fine control over your limbs, like fingers
  • 3D-thinking (throwing) and manipulation
  • cooperation

another human-like civilization is pretty unlikely.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 19 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (3 children)

known species with a human level of higher intelligence

  • Humans (allegedly; evidence points to most being dumb as a rock).
  • Some species of extinct hominids (sure, but they're extinct).
  • Dolphins (and orcas, which are big fancy dolphins); absolute creeps, though.
  • Whales, possibly, though they tend to keep to themselves, so who knows.
  • Some species of octopods.
  • Some species of parrots.
  • Some species of corvids.
  • I swear some of those black and white sheepdogs seem more intelligent than many of the people I know.
[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Dolphins and whales might be intelligent, but their bodies do not allow them effective use of complex tools. Same for birds.

Octopods do have a body that is flexible enough, but having evolved in water is a huge limiting factor. But some are able to move around outside water, so it's not too far fetched to imagine becoming a global species.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Octopods only live a few years though.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 43 minutes ago

So we're back to square one. We got a serious luck of the draw with the whole package.

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[–] ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 14 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You know who's not a coward? Captain James T Kirk.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Yeah, he was well known for spreading STDs throughout the universe - including crabs.

[–] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago
[–] TheMinions@lemmy.world 47 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (14 children)

You guys should read the Stormlight archives. Fuckin everything is a crab, even the plants.

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[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 51 points 23 hours ago
[–] Sporkbomber@lemm.ee 6 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Neal Asher's Praedor Moon is a fun read if you want to see what advanced humans would do against space faring crabs.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 12 hours ago

Rumors say that the upcoming new Children of time book will also involve crabs

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[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Project Hail Mary got this really right. The aliens are big rock crabs

[–] windlas@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

It was such a good book. I can't wait for the movie release! Apparently its due to he released in 2026.

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