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[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 118 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The reason your messaging sucks is because you don't believe it and that's really obvious. Instead of standing for things and exciting people you're doing focus groups on how to trick people into thinking they're excited.

Chuds hate minorities so republicans say they'll be cruel to minorities so republicans vote for them and then they're cruel to minorities.

Liberals want healthcare so dems say they'll get them Healthcare so liberals vote for them and then democrats say if you want Healthcare you're an idiot who doesn't understand how politics works and also you must secretly be a republican, just look at this graph.

Rinse and repeat for 4 straight election cycles and suddenly you can't even beat trump.

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago

this is it. they don't want change, and every dem presidency has shown that so obviously. it's all status quo

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 94 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don’t know who Warner is or what the tuna melt moment was. So maybe it wasn’t that viral.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 63 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Every single late night show made the exact same joke about it in their opening monologue how could that not have solidified it as a certified viral moment.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 49 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's a Chuck Schumer approved meme folks, what more do you want?

He doesn't even do that for his neice Amy, no matter ho much she supports genocide

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago

wait thats his niece? nepotism all the way down folks

[–] Ishmael@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I had to look it up cuz I also did not remember it. And this was during the COVID days when there was nothing to do BUT be online

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

I also did not remember it.

And this was during the COVID days

covid-cool

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

and what did you find? was it something you had actually ever heard about? I don't think I have.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 71 points 2 months ago (3 children)

You could just promise the American working class that you'll do things that help them and then actually do it but no clearly it's some fucking tuna melt moment that's ruining your party

[–] Ishmael@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

Funny thing is they think its the LACK of a tuna melt moment that's killing them

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

They are saying that getting clowned on for microwaving bread and cheese and canned tuna was good, and they need to do more forced memes

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

I remember when Obama said if you like your doctor you can keep them. That was pretty viral. Or Pokemon go to the polls

[–] HelluvaBottomCarter@hexbear.net 45 points 2 months ago

They talked about how to go viral

Looking at the covid deaths under Biden, I would say they know enough

[–] frosty99c@midwest.social 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I had to look it up. They didn't even go viral for something good. They went viral for microwaving slop and calling it a tuna melt. Even in their fantasies of good marketing they're getting laughed at.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/22/politics/mark-warner-tuna-melt/index.html

[–] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Putting fish in the microwave should be illegal

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Especially in a break room. Goddamn so many people bring the most rank stuff to nuke so all of us in the 20x20 cube had to inhale gaseous fish

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

i did this once.. at a place i hated working at and i hated pretty much everyone who worked there

the anger was delicious

[–] conc@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

Dropping fish in the gap between the garbage can and garbage can container a week ago should be illegal too. Why? Cause it rots, it reeks. Can't see where it's coming from easily, either. Yet here we are.

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago

Tuna are such majestic creatures. It's like it got killed a second time over.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago

Repeat after me: It doesn’t matter how good your messaging is if the content of the message is dogshit.

Messaging is not the issue with the Democratic Party, the problem is policy and whether people believe you’ll enact it.

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Lots of good answers, so I'll throw my own take in

The answer is painfully simple: Republicans engage with their constituents in a back and forth, and Democrats only engage with K Street. I would bet Democrats barely talk with their own staff of younger people enough to understand meme culture. After 50 years of focus groups, polls, and consultants Democrats cannot meaningfully communicate with their voters.

There was one Democrat exception. Do you know who did work with their base and had a great meme culture?bernie-chair You couldn't live with your own failure, where did that bring you? Back to ME punished-bernie

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I actually got to meet Bernie during the 2016 primary, I think that was the last time I had any hope

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago

Same! I was at his Essex junction rally. God that felt like a lifetime ago.

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

Yeah what do people like Buttigieg or Harris have to offer Americans? The same issues that trouble them? A vague concept of economic freedom that most associate with the decline of their living standard.

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

very memorable

Haha I know my brain is cooked and my memory is shot full of holes but I will not be gaslit by this.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

How on point. A room of overpaid clowns discussing how they can appeal to their constituents through the most vapid, shallow ways they can think of.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

The Democratic Party Needs a Bean Dadi-think-that

[–] Beanis@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My time is now. beanis

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

go viral

Yeah, and that’s the left’s fatal flaw. We care about what’s right; and the right thing is almost never hip with the kiddos.

If they insist, the left should serve as a digital counter-culture. We’re the grass touchers and we want you to touch grass. That’s why we want more housing to be built and more jobs to exist. Leftism will get you out of your parents’ basement.

There, no consultation fee required.

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The current culture promotes nihilism and cynicism, of leaders that seek the betterment of their citizenry as an oxymoron, concessions to the oppressors as fact, it is to create a world where people need to confine justice into the afterlife. People will listen and they will come once the conditions are ready for it. IF one does not fall to careerism.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Hypernormalization!

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 months ago

Omg I feel so home in hexbear spaces thank you for not making me feel fucking insane.

How do liberal vote blue no matter who types accept this?!?! And go along with it?! And genuinely believe the propaganda???? HOWWWW

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Well, I gotta tell you, there's a lot of competition out there, the whole internet is full of people trying to go viral and carve out their own niche. The first question you gotta ask yourself if you want to distinguish yourself is: What can you do that nobody else can? And then, what do people want to see you do? I mean, like, I don't really know what you do but you're like a major political party or something, right? Maybe you should look at what policies people want to see enacted, and then support those policies?

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

CW: SUICIDEGo viral like Budd Dwyer!

[–] Blottergrass@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I'm 34 years old and have never voted for a Democrat.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 months ago

I’m 35 and I have and every time I’ve regretted it.

[–] buh@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago
[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

lol, sorry Dems, Tuna Melt moment still maps exclusively to Tobias working at Swallows from Arrested Development

[–] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

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[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

tuna melt moment

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago

Maybe comprise your party with fewer people that are one slip from the grave? You know, the ones that know the difference between an app and an iPhone?

[–] BGDelirium@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago

Very memorable

Said no one ever