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[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 147 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Illinoisan here, Pennsylvania and Idaho need to get their heads checked. I wouldn’t consider anything west of Kansas or east of Ohio(being generous there) as Midwest. Also just about anything south of the Missouri Compromise Line is a southern state, the Midwest is not the home of traitors.

Edit: correct mason Dixon to Missouri compromise

[-] cave@lemmy.world 81 points 8 months ago

Wait until you see the Confederate flags in PA. Ya know, where the battle of Gettysburg happened. Very much not a southern state. It's wild seeing this shit in my neighborhood.

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 89 points 8 months ago

Confederate flags are in canada and California, it’s just a flag for racists to roleplay with, the confederacy won’t rise again anywhere.

[-] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

It won't "rise again" but the spirit of it absolutely has resurfaced in other forms, and will continue too so long as a significant number of people in this country identify with white supremacy and abject hatred.

The original KKK were effectively the remnants of the Confederate army + new recruits. And it's continued to find new banners in the generations since.

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[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 25 points 8 months ago

So much not a southern state that its bottom border is literally the Mason-Dixon line. Some people are, indeed, whack.

I have seen Confederate battle flags flying on trucks and houses in and around Gettysburg, no less. I get the impression that people are not doing this for historical reenactment purposes...

[-] chunkystyles@sopuli.xyz 24 points 8 months ago

It's the racism. That's why.

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[-] Piogre314@lemmy.world 29 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

South of the Mason-Dixon Line includes almost half of your own state of Illinois, and multiple other states that remained loyal to the union.

Did you perhaps mean to refer to the 36°30′ parallel that was used in the Missouri Compromise?

Personally I'm more worried about the 3% of Iowa who doesn't consider itself the Midwest.

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Yes the Illinois/Missouri/Iowa group could be nothing other than Midwest, I don’t know how those aren’t 100%. We’re the poster children of Midwest

[-] PlasterAnalyst@kbin.social 22 points 8 months ago

Missouri is pretty Southern culturally, due to all the racism.

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[-] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 79 points 8 months ago

Disappointed they didn't survey the whole nation. It'd be funny to see figures like "0.1%" for Florida or Hawaii.

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[-] raynethackery@lemmy.world 61 points 8 months ago

I'm a little concerned about Pennsylvania.

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[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 58 points 8 months ago

Why is "west" in "midwest"? Can't we just call these states mid?

[-] Something_Complex@lemmy.world 56 points 8 months ago
[-] kirby@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 8 months ago

So living on the line would be living in the Midmid?

[-] Whimsical@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

"Middle of nowhere" is the accepted term for that region

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[-] Perfide@reddthat.com 40 points 8 months ago

Because the US expanded from the east coast towards the west. The midwest is west of the OG colonies, but not as far west as, well, the west.

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[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 49 points 8 months ago

Is your house surrounded on all sides by corn?

Does Napoleon Dynamite seem like a documentary about your town?

Then you live in the Midwest.

[-] LastYearsPumpkin@feddit.ch 24 points 8 months ago

Napoleon dynamite takes peace in Idaho. It has a very rural theme to it, but it's not Midwest.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 22 points 8 months ago

Exactly. It's not geographically midwest, but it embodies an idea of the midwest.

An endless patchwork of green and yellow squares. Countryside but not natural.

[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 47 points 8 months ago

There are people in TN and AR that think they're Midwestern?

"Y'all" talk too funny for that, now.

(I kid, I kid!)

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[-] Got_Bent@lemmy.world 42 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I never have figured out how to categorize Oklahoma, but Midwest has never been on my Oklahoma bingo card. It's more like a less affluent extension of Texas that is full of bogus slot machines and smells like weed everywhere.

There is some surprisingly pretty land up there though. Growing up I always thought of it as a barren dust bowl wasteland. Lots and lots of trees in reality, at least in the eastern half. Don't know what's in the panhandle. I'm not sure anybody does.

Edit: Just as I finished typing this, a commercial came on the TV. To quote, and no I'm not kidding, "Live the flyover life. Move to Oklahoma."

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[-] ApexHunter@lemmy.ml 42 points 8 months ago

TIL that 25% of people living in Idaho are even dumber than I previously thought they were ...

[-] modifier@lemmy.ca 23 points 8 months ago

They are roughly in the middle of the west, as a whole country. I think our Midwest is fairly far east, due in part to the fact that the western edge of the USA was once much further east, and many conventions have survived from that time.

I am from Illinois, which fits most folks idea of what is midwest, but it's really and truly just...middle

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[-] Buffaloaf@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago

I'm from Wyoming and I'm calling bullshit on that number. Unless they talked to people living in the town of Midwest.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 47 points 8 months ago

Not only is Wyoming solidly in the west, Wyoming arguably defines the west. Cowboys, sagebrush, the Rockies... If any part of Wyoming is "the midwest," so is the moon.

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[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

According to google the town of Midwest, WY has 283 people, which is damn near half of the state's population. So add in a few more confused cowboys and that checks out.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago

Who are the 8.4% of my fellow Hoosiers who don't think they live in the midwest and where do they think they live?

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[-] WestHej@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

So North-Central. Got it. (Am not American and don't know American history very well)

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[-] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 33 points 8 months ago

Still blows my mind that Midwest apparently means "slightly not easy coast."

Like in my mind it would be Colorado, Wyoming, Idaho, Utah. That kind of area. Considering it's midway through the west half of the country.

[-] s_s@lemmy.one 32 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Well, it used to be called the Northwest Territory.

Then we expanded even further west and it became the "old west".

Then the "old west" came to mean the Southwest region pre-statehood.

So then they became the "Midwest".

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[-] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 30 points 8 months ago

Most of y'all are east of the centerline.

You're the middle east, not midwest.

[-] Gingerlegs@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think you’re joking but the name comes from the migration of the incorporation of the states into the union. Not really geographically a reference

Edit: geographically, not geologically

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[-] CycloneWolf@midwest.social 28 points 8 months ago

Iowans calling themselves "midwest" while voting like southerners. You hate to see it.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 21 points 8 months ago

Most of the Midwest votes like southerners, what are you on about?

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[-] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 28 points 8 months ago

What the fuck are they smoking in Wyoming and Montana and Idaho?

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[-] rwhitisissle@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

10% of Tennessee is so high on hillbilly heroin they don't know which question they got asked and just said "yes" on the off chance it was "would you like some free oxy?"

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[-] Hegar@kbin.social 26 points 8 months ago

This just in: 10% of Tennesseeans forgot what state they live in.

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[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 25 points 8 months ago

"where is the middle-of-the-west?"

(American points north-by-north east)

[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's because the US started on the east coast and expanded westward, it was named back when it actually was the middle of the west and just never changed it. Same way we still refer to the art movement that began in the late 1800s as "modern art".

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 16 points 8 months ago

I'm just being a smartass. Although, Americans do have trouble renaming things.

This message sent from a Robert E. Lee phone

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[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 23 points 8 months ago

Very surprised 42 percent of Coloradans and 25 percent of Idahoans would say they live in the Midwest.

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[-] HeavyDogFeet@lemmy.world 20 points 8 months ago

I lived in the States for five years and I still don't really get what Americans mean when they say the midwest. I guess that's partly because Americans also don't know, so you never get the same explanation twice.

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[-] Buelldozer 20 points 8 months ago

Wyoming, Colorado, and Montana are Rocky Mountain West, not the MidWest. Good grief.

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[-] DrChickenbeer@artemis.camp 18 points 8 months ago

As someone born and raised in the Midwest (Ohio and Illinois) and is currently a resident on the West Coast (Oregon), the way I define it is as such: if there is corn, it's the Midwest. If there are cowboys on horses, it's the west or southwest. Does your state touch the Atlantic or Pacific? That's what coast you are on (Hawaii and Alaska excepted).

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[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

Ok Colorado and Wyoming thinking they’re Midwest is new to me. As is Ohioans thinking we arent

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 15 points 8 months ago

Looks legit. As a Chicagoan I can confirm that Iowa is the middlest-west there is.

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