Positives ... Good AI features
Negatives ... No 4K recording on all lenses
Some people just have different priorities.
this post was submitted on 26 Jan 2025
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If I'm paying $900 for a phone, you'd better believe that 4K30 is the barest of bare minimums I'm expecting that rear camera to do unless it's a deliberate tradeoff for something more ethical like a Fairphone. The Pixel 9 base model can shoot at 4K60 and 1080p240 (256 GB and the same $900 price). "Good AI features" lmfao blow it out your ass, Asus. I wonder where this comparison chart is coming from anyway.
- shove it up your asus
My priority would be longevity, ports and an open bootloader.
My 2022 iPhone SE, that I bought new for about $550, records 4K at 60fps.
I’m a little shocked that isn’t the base standard for all smartphones now.
I don't care about camera quality at all, I much prefer longevity, performancd, ports, other sensors, custom ROM and root support. And so, most smartphones of manufacturers chasing the trend of camera quality, especially if they are 1k+, are not fit for me.
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I hate that they lumped the "AI" features into one.
Like... I love AI up scaling, but AI assistants can f*** off.
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Gsmarena is a better site to use for comparison of technical specs, if you care about those.
I was wondering when someone would say this. It's the only site I use to research phones.
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I also use phonearena as a secondary. No idea if the two are related.
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how is "ultra-portable" a positive, when all these phone are the same size, and not even small phones at all?
Yeah, these pro/con lists are just random bullshit with 0 accountability and consistency.
The only useful comparisons are ones that show the actual specs side by side, and even then it doesn't tell the whole story.
I looked it up and the ROG phone 8 pro isn’t even smaller or lighter than the other two - if anything it’s slightly bigger and heavier. Truly useless as a positive point.
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why would you choose any of the asuses?
"nicely built", and "sleek design" are not positives, but made up qualities. That's basically a goal for all phone manufacturers
"good AI features". sorry what? do they mean the power button opens the assist lant instead of the shutdown menu? or that the device sends home an order of magnitude more information about you than usual?
"ultra portable"? what the fuck does that mean for a fucking smartphone?
and "univeral fast charging" means it's glued in battery will wear out ultra fast.
buy a pixel if you don't care about keeping it for a long time, and about having a removable battery. otherwise get a fairphone
fairphone
their site doesn't seem to have US as an option...?? what am I missing?
The newest fairphone doesn't have a US distributor yet. The last gen one does
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Sites so stupid you know some weren't even build by AI, just there to sell ads into your brainhole - and those ads will rot your brain less than the actual site "content".
Lol at the last phones "pro" being "ultra portable".
Unless this means that programs and such can be ported to it, aren't all cell phones ultra portable? Isn't that the point?
To me that's like saying a pro of a specific model of car is that it is "ultra drivable"
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Is there a particular reason you need a brand new model? I tend to look at flagships that are a year or two old.
You might want to specify what your requirements are in a phone - this might help us :)
Also, have you tried the following communities?
Fairphone 5
positives:
- nicely built
- user servicable with replaceable components
- no AI shit
- eco friendly
- 8 years of service updates
negatives:
- its a bit more expensive for its specs
- cameras are a bit on the downlow but still good enough
I got an FP5 just a few months ago, very happy. Currently running E-Os on it. Big upgrade on the FP3 that it replaced. Liked the 3 but it was getting way to slow. It's not very expensive, considering it's fairtrade!
The performance is perfect, and who can say no to support until 2031😃
Edit: the best feature of a Fairphone is the high horse it comes with😉
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Big +1 for Fairphone
I feel like this phone should be good for most users. Most people don't need to take super high quality photos or play demanding games on their phones.
Sure it costs a bit more per performance, but I think it is gonna be worth the price in the long run.
I have a FP4 that I plan to have until end of software support. I will likely have to get a new battery in the future, but that's a breeze since it takes a minute to change and it is affordable, especially compared to many phones that are basically dead once the battery is bad.
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Of these 3, the Pixel 9. It can run both GrapheneOS and CalyxOS.
The Pixel 8a can also run both, but it only costs $400. CalyxOS will support both phones until 2031.
There's not a lot of reason to even jump from the 8 Pro to the 9 Series unless you slurp up the marketing hype, especially if you don't care about intensive tasks like games.
For me personally, the new phone feeling comes from wiping my device every now and then and selecting exactly the right slate of apps to make my life easier/better/more organized.
When it comes to hardware it feels like there is less differentiation than ever before. Oneplus could make a case for their slider button, phones with a headphone jack or removable battery can claim bonus points for that, and I hear Sony has some nice form factors (tall & thin). When it comes down to it, the most important question for me is can I unlock it and get rid of any pre-installed junk.
I’m about to switch from iPhone to a Pixel 9 so I can put CalyxOS on it. Used iPhones since a 3GS in 2009, but the time has come.
Those comparison charts like the one you posted are unresearched/uncritical garbage made to sell affiliate links. They'll never actually give a harsh review to anything listed because they want you to buy something
Your best bet is to ask owners' groups for each phone you're considering for reviews and buying advice and weighing that yourself.
pixel, so you can run GrapheneOS
Depends on your priorities but I'd also say Pixel even if keeping stock, best update policy
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I'm very happy with my OnePlus 12. I'd recommend looking into them as an option.
God can these people keep AI out of phones?
Even those stupid "AI" camera features can fuck off, they always make the photo worse, unless all the do is pick a filter and adjust the saturation/brightness/contrast/etc. as soon as the do something unreversable like add blurring, they can fuck off because it always looks janky AF in real world use
I look for a rom first, then a phone
Personally, when I can afford it I'm going to go for the OnePlus Nord N10 5G. I don't feel the need for the more stringent security hardening on GrapheneOS, so basic LineageOS MicroG is enough for me.
I hate the lack of a headphone jack enough to make that tradeoff, vs a Google Pixel.
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No OnePlus?
I have had OP8 for few years now and its still working perfectly fine. Battery could be better but other than that its still fast and reliable.
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I had a similar inquiry, I think the conclusion is Pixel. It's not ideal but they're supporting updates for 7 years now which is a good push towards deshitification. And as others put, it can have custom firmware which can prolong that even longer (or if you want out of that Google ecosystem).
Haven't took the leap yet though. I'm typing this from a hand me down Galaxy S10 that's held together with rubber bands because the back glass became unglued. I haven't had updates in a while but bs Knox protection threatens to brick the thing if I flash a new firmware. Pixels are expensive, though.
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None. Pixel if you had to pick, but the SoC sucks. And the Asus phones have like no software support, so they are definitely not worth buying.
Google now provides a full 7 years of parts and updates for the pixel 8 and 9. Samsung may I think now do 7 years of updates on some phones no idea about parts though.
samsung galaxy S10. headphone jack, expandable micro SD storage, none of the bloatware.
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