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[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 41 points 3 days ago
[–] Kobie123@lemmynsfw.com 92 points 3 days ago (10 children)

And the thing i don’t think Americans have accepted yet… there’s no going back. They can vote the democrats back in next year. But we - their traditional allies will never be there for them again.

America will forever be isolated as untrustworthy.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

They need a constitutional reform, limiting the power of the president to do shit like this unilaterally

Along with abolishing the electoral college and gerrymandering

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago

We're supposed to have a new constitution every generation.

“There is no greater tyranny than that of the dead over the living.”

— Thomas Paine

[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The so called president doesn't care about the constitution, judges or laws. He gets away with it.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 23 points 3 days ago (4 children)

If a proper revolution happens US will be taken back for sure. The problem is that Americans are way too comfortable for any major change and have been for a long time.

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 28 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Even the MAGA crowd are aware of this, they just think it's a good thing. The only thing americans can all agree on is that we have some serious housecleaning to do.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

I don't think that's true. I think the MAGAs have lived in such a comfortable bubble of American privilege that they don't understand the implications of all this. They're used to making jokes about Canada, "basically being the U.S.," and having free and easy travel on the border that they don't think about the fact that it's a sovereign nation with it's own culture and interests. I think they see this as politicians arguing, not America becoming a hostile foreign power.

Even the administration doesn't seem to get this. They just had to cancel a, "cultural," visit from the Second Lady to Greenland because both the government and public told them they were unwelcome. Apparently, they're so steeped in American privilege (and probably used to people dismissing Trump ramblings as, "bluster," or, "hot air,") that it didn't occur to them that you can't just make a fun, friendly visit to a country the President threatened to invade.

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Trump had permanently altered relations with the United States and that, regardless of any future trade deals, there would be "no turning back."

"The old relationship we had with the United States based on deepening integration of our economies and tight security and military cooperation is over," Carney said.

that sounds pretty bad, but it's not very specific

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 days ago

As it has to be. What Trump does next and what happens in Europe will play a big role in the details.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This goes for every country, except maybe Russia. Arrogant prick thinks the US doesn't need anybody else. Those who aren't rich who think that way will be doing the finding out as a result of his fucking around.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 19 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Our era of close ties with Russia has been over for a damn hot minute. Trump thinks he's friends with Putin, but Putin just wants to cripple the US.

[–] deadfatquarterzip@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago

He's so fucking stupid. I always like when reporters glaze on him before asking a question, since they know he's so manipulateable to this kind of shit. Ofc they don't mean any of what they say but he's way too dumb to realize it.

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[–] slothrop@lemmy.ca 137 points 4 days ago (12 children)
[–] cygnus@lemmy.ca 141 points 3 days ago (28 children)

He really does think the EU is a country. I'm not sure my opinion of Americans will ever recover from them having voted in this absolute moron.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 82 points 3 days ago (3 children)

America was killed, by Americans, in a democratic election. And so many are still fondling the corpse, writhing with carrion bugs, and pretending it's still alive.

[–] Andr3w222@lemm.ee 61 points 3 days ago (2 children)

When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When fascism came to America, it was wrapped in the flag and carrying the cross.

Fixed

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[–] D_C@lemm.ee 26 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Twice. They did it twice.

You can almost (but not quite) forgive the first time. You could -maybe- write it off as an experiment, or that they were giving the 'real politicians' a scare to get them back in line. However that's a lot of 'almost' and 'maybe'.

But the second time, that's fucking unforgivable.

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[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 44 points 3 days ago

Oh...

I can guaran-fucking-tee you my opinion of so-called "Americans" will never recover...

I'm more concerned if the country is ever able to recover.

FUCK!! IT'S ONLY BEEN A COUPLE MONTHS!!

Much worse is yet to be realized.

And, yes, I'm a suitably embarrassed US'ian.

🙄 🤦‍♀️

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[–] 4am@lemm.ee 54 points 3 days ago (6 children)

What the fuck do tariffs do other than make shit more expensive for US residents?

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

America is the largest consumer state on planet earth. A huge amount of foreign economies rely heavily on export to the United States and tariffs can do a LOT of damage. Trump knows these tariffs are a huge bargaining chip, but it’s the type of chip you can only use to this degree once. And he’s cashing it in for… his own political clout. The natural response to this that we’re already seeing the beginning of, is countries restructuring their industry to be less reliant on the U.S. which will ultimately do far more damage to the U.S. than the U.S. can do to other countries. And once they’ve all done that, there won’t be a good reason to ramp that trade up again.

As an American this is going to suck a lot for us, but right now everything Trump is doing sucks for us. The shame of it is that no matter how bad it gets, I can’t realistically be mad at Canada, Mexico, or all of Europe over it. What other option have they been given?

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[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

He thinks our economy is strong enough to stand on its own and that's absolutely ridiculous.

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[–] ceenote@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

"Don't make me hit you harder."

Abusive relationships are the only kind Trump knows how to have.

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[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 31 points 3 days ago (1 children)

With friends like him, who needs enemies

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[–] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 105 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I am reminded of Winston Churchill saying that Americans will do the right thing after they have exhausted all other options.

I just didn’t quite realize how far “all other options“ could really go.

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[–] Montreal_Metro@lemmy.ca 65 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

... and it wasn't our fault either. They literally betrayed us. We helped them with the forest fires and they stabbed us in the back. The fact that there aren't widespread revolts and mass demonstrations and labour strikes going on in that country right now tells us a lot about the people there and their values.

[–] longjohnjohnson@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 days ago (7 children)

While I can't fault your feelings, a lot of us are unable to do much without going homeless/hungry. Too many of us are living paycheck to paycheck, as by design, to do anything without losing what little they already have.

There are protests everywhere, the media is just downplaying/intentionally not reporting on them.

But we are very, very sorry. Many of us have been actively fighting against this fascist bullshit for years, since 2016/17. People like myself have alienated family and friends who support this fascist regime.

There's always more someone like me can do, but the tradeoffs are getting worse and worse. It's easier for me to just leave the country at this point and go to a country that aligns with my views and the way people should be treated.

[–] MBech@feddit.dk 16 points 3 days ago

It's pretty wild that the median income before tax in the USA is less than the median income in Denmark after tax (based solely on income tax). Just to put things into perspective.

With that said, it will only get worse for the American people if they don't get rid of this administatrion, and everything that has made it possible for this administration to do as it does. You think it's hard to make ends meet now? What about when you don't have any tradepartners anymore? Or when all your worker rights are stripped away?

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[–] pebbles@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I don't like this rhetoric. Mainly the last part where folks not demonstrating means we have bunk values. From my perspective we are an anti social bunch who generally suck at organizing. I don't have an easy way to just join up in a mass protest and I barely know where to start. I am depressed and anxious. I am trying to do what I can. Want me to just not work?? Me and who??? How will I eat?? I'd love to demonstrate.

[–] TemplaerDude@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

This is by design. The oligarchs have spent decades consolidating power, paying politicians off for favourable laws and regulations, and forced the wage gap wider and wider. When reports come out saying a majority of Americans live paycheque to paycheque, they rub their hands in glee. The plan is working. You cannot afford to protest their take over of the government. You are a slave in almost every way. It is by design.

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[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don’t know why Canada and Mexico haven’t done a press conference where they rip up the USMCA agreement.

[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 25 points 3 days ago (2 children)
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[–] puppinstuff@lemmy.ca 87 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

A) Canada isn’t a viable country because they depend on us

B) Hey no stop you have to depend on us still…

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Canada and the EU should definitely bait trump into escalating tariffs as quickly as possible, and reach agreements to increase trade between themselves.

If trump continues to escalate and retaliate, Mexico and even China need to be included in the agreement.

This will have huge consequences for America, effectively excluding it from worldwide trade, while diluting the impact for the remaining nations.

America has a huge production capacity though, and that's why escalation needs to happen quickly, not giving it time to ramp up subsidized domestic production.

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago (4 children)

This really sucks for the still sane Americans

[–] thebigslime@lemmy.world 36 points 3 days ago

Border states, snowbird states, and dual citizens are going through it. This is likely the worst diplomatic move in recent American history.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago (2 children)

True but honestly we kind of deserve it.

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[–] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 29 points 3 days ago

Sucks for us Canadians, too.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 71 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You would be a fool to be close with America right now. The Nazi take over is in full swing.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 43 points 3 days ago (4 children)

As well it should be. Even if we get our act together and elect another sane president, we've demonstrated that we're happy to burn every single bridge we've spent so long building, and that it isn't some one-off fuckup either

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[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 45 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I want to see him hang up on Trump if/when he calls him "governor", and then publish the phone call.

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