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they should make this guy famous as the influencer who tries to defame the US military, give him a taste of his own medicine
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Soon after Ellis’ statement on Facebook, Wallace shared another X user’s post with Ellis’ video, writing that it was an “Important Update!” and adding that Ellis was not piloting the helicopter and is still alive. Wallace also wrote in another X post that the original rumor that Ellis had been flying the helicopter involved in the crash came from another account with the handle @FakeGayPolitics, which is no longer active. Wallace said the rumor “seemed credible” because Ellis, whom Wallace misgendered in his posts, “wrote an article calling out Trump’s trans military ban only a few days ago.”
How does this logic work in his head?
"if someone said anything negative about me, I would gladly murder dozens of people JUST to make them look bad, therefore this is perfectly believable!"
That's the logic.
No logic needs to be involved when the only goal is to ruin the lives of marginalized people.
I think their tiny-Trumpy-brained syllogism goes:
- Trans people bad.
- Helicopter crash bad.
- Therefore, trans people helicopter.
Premise 1 is false, but other than that you simply can't fault the logic.
Yea unfortunately probably not his is but more like his followers' are. He is aware enough of this to exploit it for his own gain. The thing to do is to have obligatory critical thinking courses each semester every year from age six to twenty two, repeat it so many times it becomes a reflex not a choice.
trans people helicopter.
"I identify as-"
Yeah goddamn I bet that made perfect sense in his head.
I wish them great success. Not only were they greatly wronged, which could cost future jobs, but in the rush for clicks, too many streamers think that freedom of speech also means free from the consequences of their words. That needs to change
Her, and "was she"... but good on you for not being hateful!
It's my go-to way of speaking to people now too. I will either use just their name or use non gender pronouns. I figure I will avoid misgendering by not gendering.
Uhm. Hey, I know you are well meaning and I'm only saying this to inform, not to call out, shame or attack.
But most trans people deeply dislike what you're doing, it's called degendering and it's not an appropriate or respectful way to refer to us.
I understand you are worried about saying the wrong thing, but this is a way to deny trans people their identity but talking around it. It's extremely noticeable and as someone who has attended more than a few trans support groups, it's dehumanizing and upsetting. Just as non-binary folk use they/them, binary trans folk use she and him. We have one correct way to refer to us, and apart from sentance where you are referring to a group, "they" is not a safe one size fits all.
Again, I say this respectfully in effort to inform. You seem well intending, but I implore you to reconsider.
Like I replied below,
Then we can't win, it feels like people are purposely making it impossible to be respectful to everyone by always having an issue. So I will go with offending the gendered people.
If y'all gonna have a problem with using neutral terms then you will have to live with being offended because it's not fair if we can't just use your name.
I wasn't trying to start a flame war, honestly. It was just clear from the post that "she" was a "she/her"
You don't need to 'other' people who aren't requesting it. Do no harm.
They/them feels just as wrong to some people with gendered identities as some people with non-binary identities feel with gendered pronouns. Especially if they are trans and binary, because it takes a lot to get to the point that people will correctly gender you.
What I'm saying is, you might feel like you're not misgendering, but if someone is binary and you use a non-binary pronoun, you are misgendering.
Strong disagree. Using 'they/them' when you're generally unsure about a person's gender isn't misgendering.
I'm a binary trans woman. If someone is generally unsure about my gender, because it can be ambiguous from time to time, they/them when referring to me is perfectly acceptable. I would suggest most other people are fine with they/them in this instance as well.
Pronouns can be quite a minefield to navigate, especially for those not used to using they/them when all they've ever known is binary terms growing up.
Speaking as an 'elder' trans person, some pronouns in use, which are just as valid as mine!, are genuinely difficult to remember because there are so many of them. I'm talking about the ones that aren't part of the English language in common use. I default to 'they/them' in those instances because using the person's assigned gender at birth would be genuinely hurtful; I don't want to hurt someone.
I feel very much that our own, gender diverse, community is driving those outside of it away by being so strict with/overt policing of pronouns, that those who aren't gender diverse find the whole 'pronoun' thing too complicated, then either refuse to engage with us or deliberately misgender because its easier. This is especially true for older conservative cis people.
they/them when referring to me is perfectly acceptable
Thank you for stating your own personal preference. I'll try to make a note of it.
But ... is that automatically anyone else's preference? My friend Sandra prefers she/her, and rejects the they/them as it's apparently confusing.
I'd ask the two of you to figure it out but its not my business.
Yeah as you can see this is all a confusing minefield, can't blame people for using the safe choice, they-them.
I literally said "some people", because there are certainly some who don't care if people call them "they". Like I straight up acknowledged that in my first sentence. My point was that it isn't going to jive with everyone, and that maybe people should reconsider that safety blanket of "non gendering".
How is "just using they/them for everyone" not "misgendering because it's easier"? Because asking someone what their preferred pronouns are is too hard for many
Its true, some people are super sensitive and look for reasons to be offended, its best to just avoid them rather then placate that type of person. Its not really about pronoun usage.
It literally is about prounons. It's super shitty to dismiss another's identity because you found it troublesome to respect the correct way to address them.
I find that overly sensitive people are generally not worth my time, If someone cant get over the use of gender neutral pronouns, they are looking for a reason to be offended, the issue isnt the person using gender neutral pronouns. You can't just change other people's vocabulary because it might be offensive to someone. Its the same with people who don't like cussing, that's their fucking problem not mine.
If someone tells me to use a certain pronoun I will, but my default has been "they" for a long time now. Gendered pronouns in general are a terrible idea, linguistically at the very least.
So if I'm not sure don't use pronouns?
Then we can't win, it feels like people are purposely making it impossible to be respectful to everyone by always having an issue. So I will go with offending the gendered people.
I don't believe gendering ever has, or ever will be, required for communicating in the English language. Regardless of my personal beliefs regarding trans people, which are still unknown, I ask you to convince me otherwise.
I'm one of those people that prefers to have my name used instead of she/her or they/them, and it works quite well once people shake the cobwebs off their brains.
However, living your life as "he" while knowing you are "she" is full of moments that hurt. The English language may not require the distinction, but in practice it is how we define people. Why would you continue to hurt someone by using a pronoun that isn't what they've described themselves as? It's like someone who has gotten your name wrong, and no matter how often you correct them, they continue to call you the wrong name. Except it isn't just one person, it's a class of people that is filled with both those that hate your existence and those who refuse to understand it.
Get that bank girl 💸
Take fucking everything from this chode.
Of course it's Matt fucking Wallace