On the rare occasion that I make an offer for something it will be very low because that is what I'm willing to pay to deal with the whole 'male an offer' process. A low bid is a low bid, not an insult.

List it on a Buy Nothing group in your area? I give away a lot of stuff that way.

If you're offloading electronics that are going to ewaste center why not accept a $20 offer? Im genuinely interested because i often bid 5-20 on things i consider e waste and people reject it and continue trying to sell it for $100

I tried to give away a clothes dryer one time and no one wanted it. Put it up for $30 and the offers came flying in.

The funny thing is that you think everyone else is the problem when zero legit offers means its virtually certain your asking price was nonsense.

People with used obsolete goods often have expectations of value pegged to what they originally paid for it rather than what it’s worth.

Search your own or similar good on markets to see what other people are paying for similar or better goods.

Is Amazon selling something for 20 similar to what you paid 50 for 5 years ago? Shipped to your door tomorrow for free? Well then nobody is driving an hour out to your place next Tues to pay you 25.

Huh. Usually refurb them and offer them up for free. E-waste recycling is a fancy term in my area for "trucking it across the country to a port, loading it on a boat, shipping it across the ocean and then having a 6yr old without PPE burn it and bury it." Honestly, throwing it in a landfill is less damaging at that point.

I figured it's an issue with hagglers that haggle for haggling sake, and not about the value of the item.

If I want to sell something on marketplace, I put the price up, because I know somebody will ask for a big discount for a quick sale. I'm happy to move this faded couch set for $100, then I'm listing it for $200... and selling it for $100 to a person who offers to pick it up, too.

It's that kind of reasoning and makes haggling pointless imo, because sellers either don't take your lowball or they knew you'd lowball and charged high to start with so they have room to negotiate.

But as that one JC Penny guy accidentally proved, people love the illusion of good deals more than they love good value.

well there’s a bit of human psychology at play here. if you see an item listed for lower than market value the seller has already implicitly devalued the item in the listing to the audience. it isn’t surprising some rational agents would then proceed to either ignore the listing out of fear of low quality or attempt to haggle for a lower price due to the already admittedly lesser value of the merchandise. it doesn’t make objective sense at all, i agree, but it makes a whole lot of systemic sense.

edit: idk maybe this is part of why sales signs are always so flashy?? they try to get dopamine and shit flowing to overcome this initial reaction? maybe you could emulate that with your listings somehow next time. i hate the hype culture too but ig you gotta play the game.

edit pt2: i also have a bunch of stuff in my collection if you ever wanna trade! not to be weird or soliciting or anything. always like seeing what people have in their curios.

Then five minutes later, "The sandwich is no longer on the table. You may smell the wrapper."

As a buyer, I do this to annoy scalpers. Keep sending them offers far below what they're asking. The more time they spend dealing with me, the less time they can spend scamming people.

Do they ask for delivery 40 minutes away too. Then get mad when you say no

You mean 200 word AI results?

I put in an offer on a house that had been on the market for months at 97% of their asking price. I was pretty familiar with the market, and the offer was probably more than the house was worth, but I had seen 80ish homes by that point, and this was by far the best fit. It was still very much a buyer's market at this time, and people would crow about getting offers so close to their asking price. Well, my realtor came back and told me the guy said my offer made his wife cry and they refused to negotiate further. Well ok, I moved on. About six weeks later they came back and asked if my offer was still good. I guess they finally got another offer and it was much lower. We did close the sale, but I found out later that his selling agent said he was one of those nightmare clients that just had totally unrealistic expectations about the whole process. Facebook marketplace is basically this without the agents to facilitate the process, so its pretty messy at times.

We bid 10k under asking price because the owner ripped the place up and it needed tons of work. They said they would not accept any offers under asking. We thought about it and decided the house was in the perfect location and made the offer at asking price. They also were not happy about that because this was in 2021 and everything was selling for a ton over asking price. Thing is, those houses you could move into with minimal changes. This house needed abatement and a gutted bathroom and kitchen. We were the only offer and they begrudgingly accepted and tried every which way to nickel and dime us before closing.

A friend of mine put in a offer on a house a year ago - at their asking price - and got a similar response. Like don't make that your asking price if you're going to get angry when people offer that? But I guess all the houses around that area were selling above asking and they probably already had much higher offers, still doesn't excuse them being a dick.