Dear vegan 2, that is true for everything.
this post was submitted on 02 Aug 2025
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Dihydrogen monoxide
Get thee behind me, Satan, I shan't drink your hellish brew!
That stuff can kill you in minutes
It's got the highest pH rating of any acid we know of.
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"This frustration of reading the tabloid press… it would easy to become convinced that the human race is on a mission to divide things into two clean columns… Good or evil, healthy or deadly or natural or chemical… Everything organic and natural is good, ignoring the fact that organic natural substances include arsenic and poo and crocodiles. And everything chemical is bad, ignoring the fact that… everything is chemicals. Everything is chemicals! The day they discover yoga mats are carcinogenic will be the happiest day of my life."
— Tim Minchin
All kinds of weird shit you’d think would be vegan aren’t… like some brands of white sugar (bone char) and some beers (isinglass [fish swim bladders]). And there’s always our good friend with a million names, cochineal/carmine/crimson lake/natural red 4/E120, aka bugs that make your food red.
They sneak gelatin into so many things too. One that got me for a year or two after I went vegetarian was Altoids. I liked to keep em in my car to have something to munch/occupy myself while driving, and never even thought to check the ingredients. How could mints have animal in em? Turns out they have gelatin! I honestly never miss meat or anything, but I do miss gelatin to a degree. Not because I want gelatin in particular, but it’s in so many tasty things, and vegetarian gummies and the like are always so expensive ;_;
Also milk powder and whey - there's so many god damn chips where you go "why the fuck does that need milk powder?"
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i was about to recommend katyes, because they are great and cost like 1€ a bag in local stores, but apparently, thats 5€ on amazon (fuck amazon), so unless u can get them locally, thats not exactly a good option :<
Yeah, I’ve had (many of..) them while overseas and they’re probably some of my favorite veggie gummies, but sadly quite expensive back here in the states. They’re a precious part of my luggage returning ahaha, maybe not entirely a bad thing I can’t get them quite that cheap here… that and freia chocolate
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Beer is safe here in Germany! :D We've got a thing called "Deutsches Reinheitsgebot"/"The German Law of Purity", that prohibits the use of anything but water, barley, hops and yeast in making beer. So the beer itself is always vegan, you just have to watch out for little dumb stuff like the brand Bitburger using Milk-based glue for the labels on their glass beer bottles.
That is not true.
Filtrate medium is not considered to be an ingredient, nor are additives that are removed by filtration except for technically impossible residue. This most notably includes PVPP as a coagulation agents to remove polyphenols which otherwise could help in the formation of haze when the beer is stored improperly or over longer times.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvinylpolypyrrolidone
So no, beer in Germany does not have to be vegan by default.
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tell me one food that isn't made of chemicals
What, you aren't on the dark matter diet yet?
Is sunlight considered plant food? Also there are fungi that feed on ionizing radiation.
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So I'm a vegan. The 2 types of vegans I see are these:
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The terror vegan: "Everyone who isn't 100% vegan is a genocidal nazi and I'll make sure to tell them constantly." aka the ones that give veganism a bad name.
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The normal vegan: "When it comes to pollution, the mega corps are at failt. But when it comes to animal product consumption, the consumer is the driving factor. I can't expect everyone to become a vegan, but it would already help a lot if everyone would start to consume a bit less. Like once or twice a week no meat. But if you won't I wouldn't hold it against you, we're still friends after all." aka the vegan I'd like to be.
Sadly there's extremism in every field.
I don't think I've met #1 in real life, besides knowing more than a few of #2. The first one just gets really loud on the Internet.
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I'm a meat eater. I like meat. I consider myself someone who eats meat regularly. That means I eat, like, one slice of ham and 5 köttbular in a month. And I might treat myself to a salad with chicken breast in a restaurant when I manage to quiet down the voice in my head complaining about the chicken most likely not being farmed very well. Whenever I read a sentiment like "try to not eat meat 1 or 2 days in a week" I am reminded that there are really people out there who just, like, buy meat every single time they are in the grocery store and cook it daily. That seems so nuts to me.
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I'm confused. I thought veganism was about animal welfare, what does it have to do with food being made out of chemicals?
Hi Vegan 1!
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The whole 'duh, everything is made of chemicals' argument is a corporate attempt at downplaying the prevalence of unnecessary and even harmful additives in US foods that have long been banned in the EU.
Next time you see a meme about a woman asking 'is this ham processed?' with a response ridiculing her about it, look up Ractopmine.
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People don't seem to understand that even chemicals are made of something. They're not synthesized out of thin air. It is not stupid to ask what they're made of. The resources can be very diverse.
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Literally everything is made out of chemicals. Naturaphiles are loonyburgers.
Also: botulinum toxin, ricin, lead, uranium, ebola, rabies, the fucking sun... The list of completely natural things that can kill us in the most horrific ways imaginable is almost endless.
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Oreos are technically vegan. You're welcome.
I read last year that they were changing the recipe to include fucking powdered milk (the most annoying ingredient). I don’t know if that was planned for the future or just incorrect speculation, because I can’t find anything about it now.
We used to call them "accidentally vegan"
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They put chemicals in everything now. I heard they even put dihydrogen monoxide in the water!
Me, crushing up blood-cruelty cocaine in a tiny one-cent plastic baggie: “I really hope this baggie doesn’t have PFAS in it…”
"Chemical" is now used with the meaning of "ultra-processed ingredient with either unknown origin or unknow effect on your body". It is not the first meaning of the term but I guess it is a meaning now and we have to deal with it.
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Chemicals can also be non vegan. Side note: for a long time (might still be) camera film wasn't vegan, since it used bovine gelatin. Kodak Eastman even had their own cow ranch to supply all the bones. (Goes to show chemicals don't have to be vegan)
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Everything is made of chemicals
A better question is “is this ultra processed”
Like, is this a product comprised mostly highly refined and modified ingredients? And thus is it likely to have had important nutritional components removed?
In all likelihood, none of the actual ingredients are actively bad for you in moderation, but, it’ll be nutritionally lacking.
I live with two junkfood vegans and oh my god dude. I'm literally broke and eating from food banks and my diet is less bad than theirs.
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