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[–] NegativeLookBehind@kbin.social 92 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Dying for big tobacco: omg what a tragedy

Dying for big oil: omg he’s a hero

Pick your corporate servitude carefully kids

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[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Wanna see me stick nine inch nails through each one of my eyelids?

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Copy me and do exactly as I did

[–] FrenLivesMatter 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Pilot a drone and use it to blow up 9 kids

[–] thorbot@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Democracy’s dead, wait, tryna get this all straight

But I can’t figure out how Cheeto man still ain’t jail bait

[–] FrenLivesMatter 2 points 11 months ago

And Dr. Schwab said "you'll own nothing and you'll like it" (nuh-uh)

"Then why's you broke yet? Man, choose violence."

[–] Emerald@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

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Government: Tobacco is dangerous. You need to be 21 to buy it

Also government *sending military recruiters to high schools*:

[An image of a man in a red suit captioned with the text "Hi kids! Do you like violence?"]

[–] fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And youth ain't gonna have the chance to drink until they turn 21 ffs.

[–] gila@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

My parents would buy RTD spirits for my sister aged 15 when she was going to a friend's party or something. They're cops

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

In certain parts of America.

[–] RIP_Cheems@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Can't you, like, buy weed at 18? Or what about vapes? Plenty of literal children using those.

[–] DeepFriedDresden@kbin.social 32 points 11 months ago

There's no state that allows recreational purchase under 21. Vapes are considered a tobacco product regardless of nicotine content and also require you to be 21.

[–] Paradachshund 9 points 11 months ago (9 children)

Where I live weed is 21, tobacco is 18

[–] FarFarAway@startrek.website 6 points 11 months ago

im guess im assuming you live in the us, but you might want to double check that.

Tobacco sales to anyone under the age of 21 has been federally illegal since 2021.

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[–] assembly@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

All tobacco and vape got set to 21 and over where I live so just military and adult jail as benefits of turning 18 now.

[–] wsweg@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (6 children)
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[–] PixelatedCleric@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

Forever annoyed that my students have to get recruiters in our school to show up and try to persuade them to join ARMY, NAVY, etc.

🫠 Worst of all was when one of them showed up on International PEACE Day.

[–] alienanimals@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Tobacco is a shitty drug. We should ban it entirely and federally legalize another drug like cannabis instead.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’m all for legalising cannabis, but to ban tobacco seems pointless.

I want to legalise or decriminalise drugs because it doesn’t work. Banning tobacco also will not work.

Tax high - use money for education and healthcare.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes. The poorest people are the smokers, let’s just make them more miserable. Sounds about right.

You should work at a place that sells cigarettes for awhile and scope out the customers. I’ve seen people count pennies and cry because they’re hungry but they’d rather not experience the anxiety of nicotine withdrawal.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago (5 children)

As a former very poor person and now just regular poor person who used to smoke ikr.

That said, smoking never made me a happier person and at some point we have to do something. Smoking related issues cost the NHS an absolute fortune.

Do I think that corporations and billionaires should pay their fair share so us peasants don’t need to pay at all. Sure do.

Do I think that’ll ever happen. Heck no.

So given that, then we need to do something.

You shouldn’t make assumptions about people!!

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[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Cause banning cannabis worked so well lol

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Prohibition of any drug is stupid. Especially a damn plant.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Imagine looking at the war on drugs, prohibition in the US, etc then thinking "I think we should ban this drug that's already normalised and used by millions. Then nobody will use it and everything will be fine."

It. Doesn't. Work.

It especially wouldn't for something as addictive as nicotine and so trivially purchasable abroad and easy to import.

Tobacco is already dying. Just let it continue to run its course.

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[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It should be pointed out that the vast majority of the military are in support career fields, not combat units. Also, the GI Bill absolutely makes it worth it.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Yeah less than ten percent is combat trained and tasked and only a tenth of them (so 1% of the total) are combat veterans.

Most of the people you've thanked for their service probably worked at a job that civilians do everyday like fixing things or doing paperwork. Just in a uniform.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

My primary job was a logistics account, but that meant I had to inventory high value items at Forward Operating Bases in Iraq and Afghanistan and I drove in a few convoys, only once anything significant happened.

[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@kbin.social 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

And the VA loan. That's how I got my house!

Plus all the intangible benefits of being 'prior service.' Certainly has been useful in my real career.

[–] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Generally speaking, a military career is the best means of advancement in social class for Americans. You'll easily move up the middle class and likely upper middle class or upper class depending on time served.

[–] Zehzin@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Service Guarantees Citizenship

Would you like to know more?

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 6 points 11 months ago

Problem is for people with fundamental incompatibility with the military, either disability or personality clash with authority

Even civilian work parallel to the military can be hard to access in those circumstances

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