I really don't like thinking about how many people have died, having libs tell me they're the harm reduction people just makes me angry, like what the hell have you even done
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And then biden just going mask off, waving his hands, and saying it's over and so many of them didn't blink.
It do be wild that we just lived through a mass death event and kind of nobody gives a shit. Imagine reading in a history book that there was a pandemic in which 20 million people died. You would feel like shit. But we lived through it so we had to become gradually desentisized.
The correct response to the fact that millions of lives were lost to this virus is to lay on the floor and weep. But nobody has time for that because you have to pay the fucking bills. Every trauma in capitalism becomes stuffed in a box labeled "DO NOT OPEN" and stays there until people can't take it anymore and shoot up a school.
Imagine going back in time to 2018 and telling your past self that there is gonna be a deadly virus that's gonna kill millions of people. But the wildest part is that people would stop giving a fuck after two months of it.
We must never forget that this mass death was largely preventable. Millions of lives could have been saved if "western democracies" were equally responsible as China. But this was not possible because human life is worthless in capitalism. Furthermore, it was impossible because there is nobody in charge of these "western democracies". As Matt Christman points out, Capital has completely taken over. China is the only place where there are still people holding the wheel. Every other country has completely lost control.
Yes. It is wild, it is horrific, and it is ongoing. The "Covid is over" campaign is a continuation of this brutal, evil policy. Governments have stopped tracking the pandemic and its impacts, but people are still getting sick, becoming disabled, and dying. We have to do what we can to help the people who have survived so far. It would be better if we had a comprehensive, health-centered global policy, but since we don't have that, it's up to us to do what we can to reduce the spread on a personal level, combat the "Covid is over" propaganda, and support the people affected. Solidarity!
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It’s crazy how Joe Biden, one of the most milquetoast men in history, is one of history’s greatest killers now
Also directly responsible for the horrors of the drug war over the last 30 years. He's an amazing refutation of great man theory. Not especially clever, not really competent or charismatic, succeeded because he unquestioningly does the bidding of credit card companies, and somehow he failed up to becoming one of the great monsters of history.
also the greatest president of our lives
The mass death from COVID is also weird from a cultural perspective. There's never been a national grieving for all the deaths. There was this massive event that touched huge numbers of people all over the country and it's been erased from the cultural memory despite it still being ongoing. There was a bigger event for the queen finally kicking the bucket than there has been for all the deaths from COVID. People don't even talk about it anymore, it's like those people just disappeared as if they never existed. We truly live in a completely atomized society, this was treated as a million individual deaths. America has absolutely no shared cultural experience outside of pop culture and consumerism.
Not just the US, but the majority of the Western world at least. Shouldn't we have a global remembrance ritual? Some kind of ceremony? A few monuments?
This handwavy back to business thing is so weird when you analyze it.
V for Vendetta's plague had victims that were memorialized in public by the fascists that caused it more than covid was in real life.
I'm usually pretty indifferent on "let's have a minute of silence" kinda things because sometimes it's used in lieu of actual action, but we really should like, have something like that. chuds will complain about being silenced but who gives a shit about them.
I know the UK has a national day of mourning on March 23rd but idk, it doesn't seem enough to me given how many people died. it's a massive tragedy that has been memoryholed. we're more likely to debate whether the lockdowns were a good thing or not than talk about the hundreds of thousands of dead and disabled people that the pandemic created.
it demonstrates how liberals don't give even the slightest shit about mass death per se, it's merely a cudgel to use against other people and ideologies. if they did actually care, they'd acknowledge the deaths from Western imperialism (not even talking about post-1945 stuff, literally just the age of colonialism) as deaths from capitalism, and demand the end of support for wars like Ukraine and Yemen, etc.
I'm really not into ritual, but... God damn. That actually sounds nice. I think it's worthy of global mourning.
I think it's the majority of the world. 20 million deaths from COVID. And no one even acknowledges it.
The economist estimates 8-20 million death worldwide, and it's still killing and disabling people. The acute phase is a lot less deadly overall, it's still several times worse than a bad flu season when cases are low. It's crazy what we've normalized.
I think it's been a worldwide phenomenon outside of a few countries that handled COVID well. In South Africa the amount of death in the first three or four waves was staggering. I saw people dying in shipping containers and tent hospitals in parking lots and fields when I received medical treatment for my spinal issues. Then riots broke out (about a seperate issue) which just made the COVID spread even worse and supercharged one of the waves.
Everyone has just moved on from the mass death as if nothing happened. No masks anymore, no precautions. And it's not like COVID went away, it's still here. Even though it's killing way less people to the point it's not outside of the upper bounds of pre-COVID excess mortality, it's still killing people. And the only reason the deaths are so low now is probably because almost everyone vulnerable to the disease in South Africa is already dead. Over 300 000 people died over two years in a country with a population of 60 million. Which is a horrifying conclusion.
https://www.groundup.org.za/article/debunking-myth-africa-responded-well-to-covid/
https://www.samrc.ac.za/research-reports/report-weekly-deaths-south-africa
Covid is still killing a shitload of people. I strongly suspect that coroners and doctors are just choosing any cause of death except covid anytime they can. They can choose pneumonia or something, and lib family members will go along with it. Two of my (admittedly very old) family members just died recently and no cause of death was even announced.
What’s especially wonderful is that my family consists entirely of liberal covid deniers, so I know that if long covid turns my brain into swiss cheese, they’re never going to admit that anything is actually wrong with me. They’re just going to say that communism made me insane, even if an MRI shows them that my brain looks like it’s been blown apart by a machine gun.
Remember, kids, this is your brain on communism! This is what happens when you question the awesome splendiferousness of the Democrats!
Did they die "with covid" or "of covid"? Is the weasel words being used.
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Not a single person had to die, but because the heath of the economy was more important, a million deaths were given that werent even asked for.
"Anyway, let me tell you about why the CCP is a world-threatening regime that inflicts mass death on it's people and brainwashes them into thinking it's normal."
The worst is that it's over a million that we know of.
Like half the country stopped recording any statistics 3 months into the pandemic, before the worst spikes even occurred.
It's possible the true number is at least twice that.
Federated Lemmy liberal today :"ACTUALLY the Covid response was overblown from the start and not that many people actually died."
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Fuck that blue MAGA asshole. That's the kind of bullshit we never would have had to deal with prior to federation. They don't usually anger me. Their logic pervert pedantry is too silly to actually get angry about. But the fact that it happened in the middle of a thread about over 1,000,000 people dying. A mass murder event by this fucking government. I can't not be honestly pissed off.
COVID is one thing that really broke my brain. I knew i was veiwed as expendable refuse in this society, but this took it and shoved it in my face every day for years. And i can't ever go back to a mind state pre-COVID. I got it even though i did everything not to get it, and my lungs have been fucked up since then. Fuck liberalism
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Yeah. There's no going back now. The veil has been lifted, the mask has been ripped off. Most countries in the world, and many of the people, refused to do anything to protect their citizens, their loved ones, themselves.
COVID is one thing that really broke my brain.
From that point onward, every time I was told society could do something to make a bad thing less bad, I am reminded that even fucking social distancing and masking was too much for treat-brained assholes in Burgerland, and their revolt, worldwide, has made covid a constant that slowly eats people away instead of a one-time thing that could have been contained and stopped.
I worked in the treat dispensing business. Overpriced food and wine to fancy treat loving boomers mostly. I remember the day they announced they were closing all nonnecessary businesses. The restaurant was dead right before to announcement. About half an hour later a bunch of burgerlanders came in to get their treat fix while being served by peasants in before it all shut down. They didn't give a fuck. Last day i ever worked in a restaurant
Update: I posted ppb to the lib and got ice cream. Lib: I'm right and you're all shills.
Ok then cool 🍨
TBH the George Floyd protests were partly fueled by COVID lockdowns. People would revolt for their treats. Even China had to relent.
The govt still could have done more with contact tracing and other methods.
Gotta disagree with this. The george floyd protests were fueled by lockdowns, i agree, but it was largely because many people weren't working every waking moment and had the time necessary to engage in poilitical action.
We can’t blame the people entirely for this. The corporate media focused almost entirely on the damage the “lockdowns” were causing, and showed little if any footage from overwhelmed hospitals. If we had just seen continuous footage of people dying in hospitals on every TV channel, things might have been different.
China, and other zero covid places, had to relent because every other country was basically doing germ warfare by not locking down.
I'm not from around here, what's a blue MAGA?
"everything would be fine if only Obama were president again"
Check out this cold-blooded crybully hissing and snarling in the federated megathread.
Cool. Love how we can't let people know this guy was dismissing covid trauma on our instance, because we'll just be falsely accused of brigading again. Love federation.