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And permantly disfigured even more with long COVID.

They knew what would happen. The US is wealthy with a huge military force. They could have locked down and mobilised their army to protect people until it was over.

But the oligarchs didn't want to slow their profits and give up even an inch of their wealth and power, so COVID was allowed to run rampant. They sacrified their own people to the virus. These people did not willingly sacrifice themselves, they were killed through purposeful negelect.

They also encouraged other countries to do the same. My own country hardly had any deaths before US officials visited and pressured them to open again.

It's no longer tracked properly so who knows the full extent of the death.

This could be one of the largest mass killings in history.

The worst part is when the news tries to spin how traumatic it was for kids to endure our pathectic excuse for a 'lockdown', instead of how traumatic it was to watch our countries murder millions for nothing and hear our friends and families parrot eugenics talking points to try and justify it.

EDIT: [CONTENT WARNING] There is a blue MAGA from another instance in the comments who is hand waving away peoples COVID experiences, so if you have lost a loved one to this disease or had your life or loved ones affected by it, reading the comments here might stir some trauma. Just a heads up.

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[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

The joys of federation

[–] sharedburdens@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really don't like thinking about how many people have died, having libs tell me they're the harm reduction people just makes me angry, like what the hell have you even donemeow-tableflip

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

And then biden just going mask off, waving his hands, and saying it's over and so many of them didn't blink.

[–] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Not a single person had to die, but because the heath of the economy was more important, a million deaths were given that werent even asked for.

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

It’s crazy how Joe Biden, one of the most milquetoast men in history, is one of history’s greatest killers now

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

also the greatest president of our lives

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Also directly responsible for the horrors of the drug war over the last 30 years. He's an amazing refutation of great man theory. Not especially clever, not really competent or charismatic, succeeded because he unquestioningly does the bidding of credit card companies, and somehow he failed up to becoming one of the great monsters of history.

[–] moonlake@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It do be wild that we just lived through a mass death event and kind of nobody gives a shit. Imagine reading in a history book that there was a pandemic in which 20 million people died. You would feel like shit. But we lived through it so we had to become gradually desentisized.

The correct response to the fact that millions of lives were lost to this virus is to lay on the floor and weep. But nobody has time for that because you have to pay the fucking bills. Every trauma in capitalism becomes stuffed in a box labeled "DO NOT OPEN" and stays there until people can't take it anymore and shoot up a school.

Imagine going back in time to 2018 and telling your past self that there is gonna be a deadly virus that's gonna kill millions of people. But the wildest part is that people would stop giving a fuck after two months of it.

We must never forget that this mass death was largely preventable. Millions of lives could have been saved if "western democracies" were equally responsible as China. But this was not possible because human life is worthless in capitalism. Furthermore, it was impossible because there is nobody in charge of these "western democracies". As Matt Christman points out, Capital has completely taken over. China is the only place where there are still people holding the wheel. Every other country has completely lost control.

Yes. It is wild, it is horrific, and it is ongoing. The "Covid is over" campaign is a continuation of this brutal, evil policy. Governments have stopped tracking the pandemic and its impacts, but people are still getting sick, becoming disabled, and dying. We have to do what we can to help the people who have survived so far. It would be better if we had a comprehensive, health-centered global policy, but since we don't have that, it's up to us to do what we can to reduce the spread on a personal level, combat the "Covid is over" propaganda, and support the people affected. Solidarity!

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago
[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fuck that blue MAGA asshole. That's the kind of bullshit we never would have had to deal with prior to federation. They don't usually anger me. Their logic pervert pedantry is too silly to actually get angry about. But the fact that it happened in the middle of a thread about over 1,000,000 people dying. A mass murder event by this fucking government. I can't not be honestly pissed off.

COVID is one thing that really broke my brain. I knew i was veiwed as expendable refuse in this society, but this took it and shoved it in my face every day for years. And i can't ever go back to a mind state pre-COVID. I got it even though i did everything not to get it, and my lungs have been fucked up since then. Fuck liberalism

Love to all you comrades heart-sickle

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

COVID is one thing that really broke my brain.

From that point onward, every time I was told society could do something to make a bad thing less bad, I am reminded that even fucking social distancing and masking was too much for treat-brained assholes in Burgerland, and their revolt, worldwide, has made covid a constant that slowly eats people away instead of a one-time thing that could have been contained and stopped.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I worked in the treat dispensing business. Overpriced food and wine to fancy treat loving boomers mostly. I remember the day they announced they were closing all nonnecessary businesses. The restaurant was dead right before to announcement. About half an hour later a bunch of burgerlanders came in to get their treat fix while being served by peasants in before it all shut down. They didn't give a fuck. Last day i ever worked in a restaurant

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah. There's no going back now. The veil has been lifted, the mask has been ripped off. Most countries in the world, and many of the people, refused to do anything to protect their citizens, their loved ones, themselves.

[–] thisonethatone@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Update: I posted ppb to the lib and got ice cream. Lib: I'm right and you're all shills.

Ok then cool 🍨

[–] MoreAmphibians@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The mass death from COVID is also weird from a cultural perspective. There's never been a national grieving for all the deaths. There was this massive event that touched huge numbers of people all over the country and it's been erased from the cultural memory despite it still being ongoing. There was a bigger event for the queen finally kicking the bucket than there has been for all the deaths from COVID. People don't even talk about it anymore, it's like those people just disappeared as if they never existed. We truly live in a completely atomized society, this was treated as a million individual deaths. America has absolutely no shared cultural experience outside of pop culture and consumerism.

[–] trudge@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Not just the US, but the majority of the Western world at least. Shouldn't we have a global remembrance ritual? Some kind of ceremony? A few monuments?

This handwavy back to business thing is so weird when you analyze it.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

V for Vendetta's plague had victims that were memorialized in public by the fascists that caused it more than covid was in real life. scared-fash

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm usually pretty indifferent on "let's have a minute of silence" kinda things because sometimes it's used in lieu of actual action, but we really should like, have something like that. chuds will complain about being silenced but who gives a shit about them.

I know the UK has a national day of mourning on March 23rd but idk, it doesn't seem enough to me given how many people died. it's a massive tragedy that has been memoryholed. we're more likely to debate whether the lockdowns were a good thing or not than talk about the hundreds of thousands of dead and disabled people that the pandemic created.

it demonstrates how liberals don't give even the slightest shit about mass death per se, it's merely a cudgel to use against other people and ideologies. if they did actually care, they'd acknowledge the deaths from Western imperialism (not even talking about post-1945 stuff, literally just the age of colonialism) as deaths from capitalism, and demand the end of support for wars like Ukraine and Yemen, etc.

[–] RedQuestionAsker2@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I'm really not into ritual, but... God damn. That actually sounds nice. I think it's worthy of global mourning.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I think it's the majority of the world. 20 million deaths from COVID. And no one even acknowledges it.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago
[–] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

The economist estimates 8-20 million death worldwide, and it's still killing and disabling people. The acute phase is a lot less deadly overall, it's still several times worse than a bad flu season when cases are low. It's crazy what we've normalized.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I think it's been a worldwide phenomenon outside of a few countries that handled COVID well. In South Africa the amount of death in the first three or four waves was staggering. I saw people dying in shipping containers and tent hospitals in parking lots and fields when I received medical treatment for my spinal issues. Then riots broke out (about a seperate issue) which just made the COVID spread even worse and supercharged one of the waves.

Everyone has just moved on from the mass death as if nothing happened. No masks anymore, no precautions. And it's not like COVID went away, it's still here. Even though it's killing way less people to the point it's not outside of the upper bounds of pre-COVID excess mortality, it's still killing people. And the only reason the deaths are so low now is probably because almost everyone vulnerable to the disease in South Africa is already dead. Over 300 000 people died over two years in a country with a population of 60 million. Which is a horrifying conclusion.

https://www.groundup.org.za/article/debunking-myth-africa-responded-well-to-covid/

https://www.samrc.ac.za/research-reports/report-weekly-deaths-south-africa

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Covid is still killing a shitload of people. I strongly suspect that coroners and doctors are just choosing any cause of death except covid anytime they can. They can choose pneumonia or something, and lib family members will go along with it. Two of my (admittedly very old) family members just died recently and no cause of death was even announced.

What’s especially wonderful is that my family consists entirely of liberal covid deniers, so I know that if long covid turns my brain into swiss cheese, they’re never going to admit that anything is actually wrong with me. They’re just going to say that communism made me insane, even if an MRI shows them that my brain looks like it’s been blown apart by a machine gun.

Remember, kids, this is your brain on communism! This is what happens when you question the awesome splendiferousness of the Democrats!

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Did they die "with covid" or "of covid"? Is the weasel words being used.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Federated Lemmy liberal today :"ACTUALLY the Covid response was overblown from the start and not that many people actually died." covid-cool

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Least bloodthirsty treat enjoyer

[–] TillieNeuen@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow, you just reminded me of this post I made 3 years ago about the grief I was feeling about the mass death we were experiencing. It's almost strange to think about the grief I felt then, compared to how numb I feel to it now. I mean, I can still get sad and angry over specific things that are happening, but I'm not feeling the weight of the mass death the same way anymore. Coping mechanisms are wild.

Also, shoutout to @sappho@hexbear.net for helping me talk through my feelings at the time. Care-Comrade

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Me too, I still feel sad, it's in a different way though. Mostly anger now.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I'm mostly feeling a mixture of indifference and anger. I've spent the whole pandemic to date indoors, i've avoided symptomatic infection, i've watched so many friends lose loved ones and seen my own family members in hospital. And what i've gotten out of it is a profound anger at american culture for allowing this, and being indifferent to it. It's drastically changed how i look at unmasked people in the super market, which is the only place I go. Whatever forgiveness i had for American's failings is gone. And I really don't like how that's made me look at "My fellow Americans"

[–] Vingst@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

TBH the George Floyd protests were partly fueled by COVID lockdowns. People would revolt for their treats. Even China had to relent.

The govt still could have done more with contact tracing and other methods.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Gotta disagree with this. The george floyd protests were fueled by lockdowns, i agree, but it was largely because many people weren't working every waking moment and had the time necessary to engage in poilitical action.

[–] Teekeeus@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Remember when the international community hoarded vaccines, and decried "Russian and Chinese vaccine diplomacy" when Russia and China supplied vaccines to developing countries

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember when it finally became undeniable that China had done a better job responding to covid so the NYT started pushing the idea that China didn't care at all about mental health. It was essentially, "they showed us how to successfully contain covid, but at what cost?"

[–] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"they showed us how to successfully contain covid, but at what cost?"

the anti-China rhetoric obviously started pre-pandemic but this shit is when it hit comically deluded levels. BAWCing at every single moment that China did anything to stop the spread of the virus or the deaths of people while simultaneously going "Well, those million people were all going to die anyway, because they're old!!!" truly should have gotten every single journalist who peddled that bullshit fired.

(out of a cannon, into the sun)

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

There really aren't many professional journalists left. The profession has been utterly mauled, and it started years ago, more than a decade I think. Most of the people writing now aren't journalists, and the ones who are lack the resources that made any degree of credible reporting possible in the past. Go look up how most newspapers have shut down all their foreign offices and investigative offices. Most news now is either re-worded reuters and ap briefs or just reading off government and corporate press releases.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

“China’s lockdowns destroyed its economy even though its economy has regularly outpaced the USA’s by three or four times since the pandemic began!” maybe-later-honey maybe-later-kiddo frothingfash

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

I've been told by very smuglord people that actually china didn't contain the virus at all and they cremated millions and millions of people because communism governments lies blah blag blah.

[–] Bongles@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not from around here, what's a blue MAGA?

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

"everything would be fine if only Obama were president again"

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Check out this cold-blooded crybully hissing and snarling in the federated megathread.

https://hexbear.net/comment/3758823

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Cool. Love how we can't let people know this guy was dismissing covid trauma on our instance, because we'll just be falsely accused of brigading again. Love federation.