also a million other characters, but i saw someone arguing silence of the lambs wasn't transphobic the other day so that's on my mind
Yeah I wish Silence of the Lambs had a different antagonist. From what I’ve heard, the writers didn’t intend for the movie to be transphobic because “”Buffalo Bill isn’t actually a trans woman”” or w/e, but they fucked up anyway. Clearly they did not consult any trans women during the process, or if they did then they totally ignored what they said.
Love Hannibal Lecter though. As far as I’m concerned, that movie is about him and him alone. Were there any other serial killers in the movie? I don’t remember them. ~~further comments redacted for being too thirsty~~
the writers didn’t intend for the movie to be transphobic because “”Buffalo Bill isn’t actually a trans woman””
I don't get why people even on this site have such a hard time understanding that this makes the movie a hundred times more transphobic. The portrayal of the killer is bad enough as it is, i have serious trauma from this shit, but piling all this transmedicalism on top of it, having Hannibal misgender the killer and claim that "he" actually just has some weird fetish instead of being a TRVE TRANSSEXVAL is at the very core of what makes this garbage the transphobe's version of Birth of a Nation. What's so hard to understand about that? Why does Hexbear have such a hard time recognizing and calling out transmedicalism?
Just in case my comment didn’t make it clear enough, I agree with you
SOTL is one of my favorite movies of all time, even with the questionable transphobic bits. The tension between Foster and Hopkins made that movie something really fucking special
Hopkins was amazing
Author Thomas Harris has come out and tried to do damage control about it, but none of his bs holds water.
I watch Red Dragon for my Hannibal fix ngl.
Its wild to me that this exists. I've never seen Silence of the Lambs and made the apparently foolish guess that the serial killer that eats people would me the main badguy. Shame on me.
Buffalo Bill is like if someone made a version of planet of the apes were the humans and apes team up to defeat a new dangerous mutant ape that is literally just a black dude and liberals tripped over themselves to disvow this obviously black guy's race and call you a racist idiot for tainting black people with this monster's sins because "they did a dna test and he was 100% ape so shut the fuck up and let me have this racist loophole."
Relevent clip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1QKyB_0P0E
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
The director apologized when it was criticized for being transphobic and acknowledged it was and he genuinely didn't know better and it was the early 90s so chances are he didnt
he did stop making sense so i can forgive him
There's whole ass youtube channels where the only thing they talk about is the transphobia that seemed to be manadatorily added to one or more episodes of every TV show series, ever.
I thought this was about the football team and got very confused
I popped into my lemmy.ml account the other day and saw three buffalo bill 'memes' almost immediately, one was about voting for Biden or getting trump again too, that was lovely
shoutout to the cistem
I recently lost a friend over her similar discourse around a trans woman in the persona games. And the way she talked about trans people at all if they had to do with Japan.
augh i'm sorry. which trans character, do you remember? because i don't remember any big trans women in persona, i mostly just remember naoto (who is the rare transmasc character who gets treated as poorly as transfem characters often do)
Specifically about the trans girl in persona 3. She has a very short moment in it. And the new trans not trans girl from the new JoJos. Me "this is bad trans representation" my ex friend: well he's not even trans, he's just a man who dressed up like a woman to prey on children.
ohhh yeah. that really transphobic bit sucks and it brings my enjoyment of the whole game down. like the similar (but worse!) bit in the cowboy bebop movie. at least dragona in jojo's isn't as bad as that, but that's a low bar. dragona is just like "ohhh this cishet guy is just getting injections to give themself boobs and help them pass as a woman because they like it in a normal cisgender way! and they get assaulted by a cop in an explicitly transphobic way, but that doesn't make them trans!"
Right. And this ex friend just sides with the dominant narrative on those rather than listen to my lived experiences as a trans woman.
Idk sometimes I think the lack of media literacy is on purpose to help make them not have to question their preconceived biases.
yeah, if a cis person doesn't realize it's transphobic before it's pointed out that's sus, but i can maybe accept that they just never thought about it. but if they try and argue with a trans person about it, it has to be willful ignorance
It wasn't her bad beliefs that made me stop being her friend. It was definitely that fighting and arguing that did it. 
Didn’t look at the sub and clicked this expecting reactions to the Buffalo Bills playoff loss to Kansas City.
I was educating The Cis about this film on the anniversary of its stupid release. Was the valentines release date a joke?
Red Dragon has a better story and a better killer. But Michael Mann had already made the excellent film adaptation "Manhunter" so they had to go with the inferior sequel.
DO YOU SEE?
Oh shit that's where that's from. Was Ralph Fiennes in one of them?
In Red Dragon (2002).
I watched silence of the lambs when I was in high-school and the moment I got to the scene where Buffalo Bill puts on the skin suit I was so inexplicably disturbed I immediately shut the movie off. Looking back now thay my egg has cracked, I feel like part of why I was so uncomfortable was my own inherent transness and how perverse that scene was designed to be.
Do you see?
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