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[–] EndMilkInCrisps@hexbear.net 61 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I mean all vegetables are grown for look over taste these days. deeper-sadness

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tomato’s being a particularly egregious example

[–] DyingOfDeBordom@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

idk what the best tomato is but my favorite so far is these little campari tomatoes

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[–] beef_curds@hexbear.net 53 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Just eat bell peppers or anaheims or something and leave my jalapenos alone.

I legit don't get the point when there's so many pepper varieties.

[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 57 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Its not so people who can't handle spice can eat more, it's so that companies making industrial quantities of salsa, etc. can get a more consistent spice level but the same jalapeno flavor by using a mild pepper and adding capsaicin as needed

Which isn't to say its good or normal, shit sucks

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Then just use bell peppers and add more capsaicin

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 36 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Bell peppers don't really taste like jalapenos, they lack any of the grassy jalapeno flavor

[–] Owl@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

then use bell peppers and grass

[–] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

White people do anything to avoid adding spice

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[–] YearOfTheCommieDesktop@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

but then they cant legally tell people it has jalapeno in it, nor do they probably taste the same. Could probably get it pretty close though I admit

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)
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[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

capsaicin extracts have a hideous chemical flavor, it's better to just use peppers at the level you want

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[–] pudcollar@lemmy.ml 14 points 6 months ago

Jalapenos have a specific flavor and they're prolific bearers of fruit, maybe that's part of it

[–] Hexbear2@hexbear.net 46 points 6 months ago (4 children)

It's all food, with maybe one exception, honeycrisp apples, but all sub variants of the honeycrisp are worse! In an effort to appeal to mass market, all food is being purposely made more bland. Then you gotta pay more for "high quality tasty food" it's disgusting. Food science is a mistake, return to grandma cross breeding heirlooms.

[–] uSSRI@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's a result of breeding for shipping across the country and storage too. Heirloom tomatoes could never make it to a grocery store intact. And a demand to eat everything out of season.

[–] ElGosso@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I mean on one hand yes, on the other hand, I don't want to eat salted beef and dried pumpkins all winter like they did pre-refrigeration

[–] MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Salted beef would be a luxury. More like salt cod - and I don't mean an angry gamer

[–] newerAccountWhoDis@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

well, cod's gone sadness-abysmal So dried pumpkin, cabbage, potatoes, pickled food, apples, beans, lentils, nuts, grain, and cheese it is

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[–] bigboopballs@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Food science is a mistake

only under capitalism

[–] glans@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago

I'll raise you.

food science is a broad subject. it includes all kinds of objectively good things like the addition of iodine, folates and other nutrients to food. also it includes sanitation and quality control which are more required under capitalism.

people talking shit about science in food are advocating for sawdust in bread, spoiled milk and lead just about fucking everywhere.

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[–] Elon_Musk@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Eradicating the Red "Delicious" apple is praxis.

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[–] ColonelKataffy@hexbear.net 43 points 6 months ago (1 children)

serrano gang is accepting applications

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Edit: incorrect, I must just have never had a good Serrano

Serrano has always been milder though. Shit, last time I bought some habs from a regular store they were mild enough for a midwestern child who’s yet to learn ranch is optional

[–] good_girl@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In my experience, Serranos have always been about twice as spicy as Jalapenos. Maybe I've just gotten some seed-packed scorchers?

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I looked it up, they max out several times higher. I must just be in a region with incredibly mid Serrano supply

[–] good_girl@hexbear.net 14 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It works out, grocery inadequacies aside the region is amazing for growing peppers.

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[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 32 points 6 months ago

Big Cracka creates the problems and sells us the “cure”

[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 30 points 6 months ago
[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 28 points 6 months ago

rage-cry

Capitalism has gone too far this time

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Big Salsa can take my yard peppers out of my cold dead hands

[–] Des@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

gods those are some productive plants.

last year i had like baskets overflowing from just 3 plants.

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

So that's why my anti-cracker-aktion ass can eat them now.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Serranos seem to be on the upswing

[–] roux@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago

Tbf Serranos are superior in the moderately hot pepper world.

[–] Mokey@hexbear.net 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the worst thing is that they're still going to be too spicy for white people

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[–] Anne_Teefa@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Fyi, if you grow your own jalapenos, if you want them to be spicier, basically starve them of water. Literally use the least amount of water necessary to keep it alive and 'healthy' and it should make for good peppers. Source- I googled how to make jalapenos spicier because I thought roasting them made them hotter.... Only makes them milder... boohoo

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[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

So this is why I have been forced to buy like 12 at a time just to make sure I end up with a few hot enough to make Pico de Gallo.

Fuckers.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They're gonna reintroduce "heirloom jalapeños" and mark the price up by ×5

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[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

Funny you should mention that, I bought some jalapeno cheetos and I noticed they're a lot more mild now.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 13 points 6 months ago

this is the level lmayo have stooped to negative

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

goddamn anti-cracker-aktion's. If it doesn't make me cry, it ain't spicy.

[–] FilterItOut@thelemmy.club 11 points 6 months ago

Those of us interested in jalapenos have known about this for a while, and constantly curse that professor at A&M. The article posted here mentioned it in a two sentence throwaway line, but most of the reason is because the jalapenos grown aren't like monsanto corn: the pepper pollen got out and now it's basically wild and runs rampant when you are growing them.

Then, you know, the contribution of breeders wanting the less spicy version just made things worse. Way worse.

[–] NewLeaf@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

I learned about this at my local farmers market.

If you get your jalapenos from people who are aware of this, they buy the good seeds and grow and sell those. It made a lot of sense once she explained it.

Once in a while though, I don't mind the store bought ones if I dont want as much heat. They do end up tasting like a green pepper though

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

I prefer the poblanos myself. flavorful, smoky, and with enough heat for the average POC like me

[–] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago

My tummy instincts tell me this is what happens when crackers and capitalism run the sciencey science stuff

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

smuglord: "Ummmm.....no one owes you flavor, sweaty! It's porky's right to remove flavor if he wants."

[–] Anne_Teefa@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago
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