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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 38 points 5 months ago (3 children)

If Japanese devs wanna remove all of the weird troublesome hornycringe from their games, I'll support em in it.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Please just stop adding lolis ffs would be a nice first step. If Japan has less boobs on display than Korea it’s only because Japan is obsessed with underage children

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I watched a video on fucked up games (morbid curiosity and just a shitty day where I wanted to turn off my brain), and turns out that the amount of horny, outright pedophilic and mysoginistic games are still being made, but the developers make an active effort to block anyone outside Japan from getting them, or even visiting their websites. Not only that but they have stated something to the lines of: "these games are intended for a Japanese audience only, if you want to play them, come here"

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago

Very normal =)

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 12 points 5 months ago

They do that so they don't get into major headline-causing trouble overseas and cause an international scandal which used to happen with Japanese porn games

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 10 points 5 months ago

Personally I don't consider those niche fetish eroge games to be part of "Japanese gaming" in the same way that I don't consider incest porn when I'm thinking about American cinema.

Like yeah, I get it, it's technically a game from Japan so it's a Japanese game. But it's so removed from what is considered mainstream gaming that it's porn first and game second

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

that's kinda what they did with bridget-pride

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Her depiction is still very objectifying, only obscured by the endemic issue in the fighting game genre being the most insanely misogynistic genre outside of gacha and hentai games.

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

fuck off with that

a) no fucking way fighters are that high in misogyny. at the very least they consistently let you play as women, which has to put them a fair way up there. there is more to misogyny than having horny character designs
b) bridget isn't objectified? camera doesn't ogle her, she's given a story where she self actualizes and is given internality that is reflected in her character design, design isn't even horny, especially by the standards of the franchise
c) i was specifically referring to an instance where a japanese dev went back and fixed an extant shitty tropey objectifying horny bullshit character (incredibly sexualized in her og design, being 14, plus all the transphobic jokes and inherent transphobia to the bit) by giving her internality as a character and making the gender stuff not just the trap narrative and instead allowing her to grapple with identity, as well as making her both way less sexualized AND an adult woman. please do not look at this and go "this isn't an improvement"

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

a) no fucking way fighters are that high in misogyny. at the very least they consistently let you play as women, which has to put them a fair way up there. there is more to misogyny than having horny character designs

You think I was complaining about them being male dominated? The most immediate reference is Strive and you think the reason someone would call fighting games misogynistic is because there are too many dudes? My sister in christ, the horny designs are the issue?! Have you never pressed crouch with Jack-O'? Have you never been subjected to gifs of ramlethal's thigh fat jiggling? Have you just never even looked at Baiken?

(To be clear it's an issue with the genre, not Strive specifically, I'm just using this as the immediate reference.)

b) bridget isn't objectified? . . . design isn't even horny, especially by the standards of the franchise

Alright, so you get that Strive is, uh, typical, but you're just in denial about Bridget. Even her fucking character portrait is a mild upskirt. She's no Baiken, but Baiken is not the line.

C is fair enough.

[–] Cromalin@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

a) i obviously didn't think that, it was very clear you were complaining about them being horny. i was saying that being dominated by male characters is at LEAST as important when discussing whether something is misogynistic or not as how horny it is. i am aware that they are horny, i mentioned the designs as shorthand for that. also when going "it's more than just the character designs!" you said "have you looked at baiken???" which is an example of... character design. but allow me to rephrase: there is more to misogyny than being horny
b) "Even her fucking character portrait is a mild upskirt."

this is a normal outfit. i see people wearing skirts like that all the time. you can see a hint of what looks to me like a pair of modesty shorts underneath, but i am only just now learning this because you have to REALLY zoom in, which i never did because why on earth would i? even if i were to concede that the art is horny (which i really don't, this is such a normal outfit. i wear skirts that short sometimes!) that does not equal objectification, which is when women are reduced to sex objects. bridget is not being reduced to a sex object here, she is a character with agency in the story and a good, resonant character arc

this is in contrast to what i was discussing in point c, which was the most important point. she USED to be exactly as objectified as you said, with her existing solely so the game could be horny about her and set up transmisogynistic punchlines.
compare. in strive she is a person, in her og appearance she was just a sex object. there is a difference between a woman in a kinda skimpy outfit and a woman who is being objectified

[–] Helmic@hexbear.net 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Korean gamer chuds are absolutely next level, like taking out blimps to protest companies not having sexy enough swimsuits in gacha games or literally having a character make an incidental pinching gesture, because they think it's subliminal feminist propaganda mocking men for having small penises. A lot of Korean devs are fucking terrified of upsetting them. I would be unsurprised if there actually is a trend of Korean gamea being more overtly fanservicey as a result.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

they should all defect and make Pyongyang Racer 2

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Where do i get pyongyang racer 1

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

https://archive.org/details/pyongyangracer

it's kinda annoying to get flash games running though

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 23 points 5 months ago

Ah yes, South Korean grindfest mmo trash with busty elves, such a high bar.

[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Unlike you emotional wokeies, I am a being of reason. If you had half my IQ you would realize that it is simply more efficient in terms of time to enjoyment to only play video games that make my pp hard. I save literal hours a day not having to interrupt my gaming sesh to look up hentai.

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 21 points 5 months ago

These guys need more problems in their lives

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Do Koreans called Japan "the east"??

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They probably call Japan something a lot less flattering a lot of the time.

[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Usually just "those colonizers," though reactionaries in Korea are usually pro-Japan.

[–] roux@hexbear.net 18 points 5 months ago

I'm still mad that "big tiddy jiggle simulator" isn't a genre tag on Steam so I have to buy the game first to see if I can masturbate to it...

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

glasses-off

"Am I missing games that completely debunk this?"

glasses-on

"Send me porn game recommendations"