In a sane world, a draft dodger saying he 'liked soldiers who didn't get captured' would have been enough.
The people who vote for him know what he is, they just don't care.
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I think in a sane world, after the "grab 'em by the pussy" tape came out we'd have never heard from him again.
I've posted this story many times.
After the 'pussy grabber' tape came out, a conservative woman went on the TV show The View to defend Donald.
One of the other panelists kept repeating the word 'pussy' over and over. The Trump defender asked her to stop using that offensive word.
Cognitive dissonance does not exist for conservatives.
They would first have to possess a mind in order for it to hold two opposing thoughts
A reminder that there was a candidate who got too excited and yelled in a weird way then got erased because of it. Now we have Robert "brainworm" Kennedy still on people's radar sounding like he's gargled gravel everyday since he was 12.
Poor Howard Dean, we could use that enthusiasm now.
Not to mention someone misspelled potato once, and his political career got torched from it.
His son is an ex-Congressman.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Quayle
Little swine was about 25 in 2001, and somehow decided he didn't need to join the military. Later he talked about saving the country from Obama
Apples and trees...
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In a sane world, yes.
In the real world, the people who support him are the ones who identify with him, and the ones who identify with him think that sexual assault is the pinnacle of masculinity.
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Why is everyone talking about a hypothetical sane world? It's not. Maybe it never was. It's a mad mad mad mad world.
(No conscious reference to the movie, it's just a title that seems apt.)
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It's been said the pain of the bamboozle is too much for most to acknowledge so they continue to double down on it. The great grifters and conmen know this and use it to their advantage.
Many think it's only the stupid and uneducated that are taken in by these scams. At times it's the tribal nature that we can get caught up in.
Often the educated are worse off as they know better and the grave injury to their egos won't allow them to announce to others they have fallen victim as it's pretty embarrassing. They take their lumps and move on with their lives if they do recognize they have fallen into these traps.
It's going to be many years before we get to the other side and then I wonder if it will be like what the Spanish referred to as the Miracle that occurred when Franco died.
After decades in power, the citizens that fought for Franco and supported him ceased to exist. When asked everyone fought against Franco in the civil war and they secretly fought against him at every level of society, government, and the military. It was miracle how he came to power and won a war with no support from anyone at any level within Spain.
If we ever get past the identity association of team Orange it will be interesting who is found to still be supporting this current day madness especially among the religious groups that support a man that displays so many of the things many of the regular members would be chastised for...
In the 1960 election Kennedy beat Richard Nixon with something like 52% of the vote.
In 1980, they polled a bunch of people who had voted in that election and somehow 99% of them had voted for Kennedy.
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It's been said the pain of the bamboozle is too much for most to acknowledge so they continue to double down on it. The great grifters and conmen know this and use it to their advantage.
People in the UFO scene do the same with their grifters.
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"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
Attributed (but debated) to Samuel Clemens.
And it’s even easier to convince them that everyone else has been fooled.
This! We don't need to call people out or harass them for being stupid. We just need for them to drift away from the cult. The constant publicity and chatter just feeds it.
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The thing that makes this somewhat relevant is how close the election is. If those tapes exist, and you can get them to the right social media accounts, it might make 0.5 percent of his voters reconsider (and that might be sufficient).
A Trump voter quote that always live rent free in my head is "He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting".
It tells you everything they need to know about them. They have a shit life, and they want to make damn sure everyone else has a shit life too.
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Every single time he opens his mouth would be enough.
Donald Trump taught the worst of us that it not only is okay to be a bigoted racist, but that it is okay to be that in public.
Only because they have a misguided sense of revenge and want to blame the libs for their truncated life expectations when in fact they’ve been supporting and voting for the very politicians most likely to keep pushing their heads under water.
They want to hurt their opponents. They don’t care what the price is.
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If this tape got leaked, it would literally help his candidacy. The hatred, cruelty, misogyny - it's a feature, not a bug. There was already a tape of this guy bragging about sexually assaulting women, and it didn't make a lick of difference. I can see his rabid followers salivating at the idea of hearing him say the N word on tape.
It might hamper his apparent surging popularity among black voters
A lot of people only care about things when they’re impacted
Wtf is this true?
Overall, older voters have tended to be more Republican than younger voters in recent decades, but this is not true for Black voters. While 7% of Black voters 50 and older currently identify as or lean Republican, 17% of Black voters under 50 are aligned with the Republican Party. This is not new, as younger Black voters have tended to be more Republican than older Black voters over the last 25 years.
No. It is not accurate to say his popularity with black voters is "surging".
I've seen some decent conversations over on Mastodon about how the democrats taking the black vote for granted is causing real damage. Not criticise or focus on you personally at all, but your response kinda backs up the point.
In a hard two party system, what else was going to happen?
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Lordy, I hope there are tapes!
Good news: There are tapes!
Bad news: He will face absolutely no consequences from them.
Amazon owns the show now so they have the tapes if they still exist.
Billionaires stand to gain from Trump getting elected again. Don't count on those tapes coming to light.
Bezos has been targeted by Trump before and could afford to pull off the biggest troll move right before the election
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According to Wikipedia MGM owns the show. Even they might not own the n-word tapes.
I’d bet that Mark Burnett owns them. And, I don’t think that he’d release them.
Ugh I don’t miss that fool. He’s apparently writing fiction now…
So bonus points for his followers?
What difference does this make now? Racism isn’t a republican secret, neither is supporting white supremacy. The few bipoc supporters will minimize it.
You're 100% spot on. In 2015 Donald Trump was literally being endorsed by KKK Wizards and when pressed to admonish/censure them he refused.
This is literally not news.
So ridiculous that an NDA would cover something like this.
I mean... I regularly work under NDAs in tv and they are usually pretty mild but I did one season of... Something that came out inside the past 10 years...and the entire thing was mad brained including the NDA. Production wise these sleazy reality tv things are grifts. If the core reality of them is questioned then it hurts the "integrity" of the brand and ultimately the production company's bottom dollar. If you don't buy into the reality aspects those shows lose most of their appeal.
I can't even begin to say how weird it was to be crew. There's like this whole fast-track culture where if you're a little competent they will invite you onto the next project with basically the same responsibilities but a jacked up important sounding title. From a technical standpoint I've seen more discipline and good practice on film student projects. They are their own little worlds inside film and if they don't work more reality tv they don't have recognized transferable skills that easily ports to other positions in the industry, so if they want to switch you become a person who has a bunch of entrenched bad habits you have to be trained out of and rehumbled before you can reliably get jobs. The people who get sucked into that world basically live in golden handcuffs.
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So where are these tapes? We need them because, thanks to the cognitive dissonance enforced on everybody by white liberalism, a blatantly obvious white supremacist will only be seen as a blatantly obvious white supremacist as soon as they hear him use racial slurs.
Does he have the tapes?
Fucking seriously. Put up or shut up. Where's all the shit that Tom Arnold said he had too?
Especially now that Trump is actively courting "the black vote" I would think now is a better time than any to release those tapes. I'm sure the parent company owns them and has $ome deal to keep them under wraps though...
While this was an interesting read over all, I suspect what I'll remember most from it is the origin of the expression "a pig in a poke".
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