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Denmark has recalled several spicy ramen noodle products by South Korean company Samyang, claiming that the capsaicin levels in them could poison consumers.

Three fiery flavours of the Samyang instant ramen line are being withdrawn: Buldak 3x Spicy & Hot Chicken, 2x Spicy & Hot Chicken and Hot Chicken Stew.

Denmark's food agency issued the recall and warning on Tuesday, urging consumers to abandon the product.

But the maker Samyang says there's no problem with the quality of the food.

"We understand that the Danish food authority recalled the products, not because of a problem in their quality but because they were too spicy," the firm said in a statement to the BBC.

"The products are being exported globally. But this is the first time they have been recalled for the above reason."

It's unknown if any specific incidents in Denmark had prompted authorities there to take action.

The Danish Veterinary and Food Administration said it had assessed the levels of capsaicin in a single packet to be "so high that they pose a risk of the consumer developing acute poisoning".

"If you have the products, you should discard them or return them to the store where they were purchased," it said in a statement.

It also emphasised the warning for children, for whom extremely spicy food can cause harm.

The notice has sparked heated discussion online with many amused reactions from lovers of spicy food. Many have made assertions about the Danes' low tolerance for spice.

"I had a friend from Denmark who thought tasteless breaded shrimp with a little bit of ground pepper on it was too spicy. Not surprised they think this ramen is poison," read one top-liked comment on the Reddit r/Korea group.

Samyang said it planned to "closely look into the local regulations" in Denmark and respond after that.

The noodles don't appear to have been recalled before in any other country, nor have there been other safety warnings issued.

Capsaicin is the chemical compound in chilli peppers which creates the burning feeling.

When humans eat peppers, the capsaicin is released into saliva and binds on to receptors in the mouth.

Samyang is a major South Korean food manufacturer which brands itself as the first company in the country to create instant noodles, back in the 1960s.

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[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 50 points 2 weeks ago

I will say, the 2x spicy chicken was really fuckin' hot

I can see it being lethal to people for whom the spiciest ingredient in their cuisine is whitefish

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's just so weird because there's a pretty decent culture for eating spicy food here as well. The usual go-to nighttime drunken dish is pita or durum, served with a large bowl of chili on the side so you can slather it yourself. There's a large middle eastern population here as well.
It's so weird. I'm legit pissed, the 2x spicy were perfect for me and now they're gone because of someone screaming "won't somebody please think of the children?"
Why not get rid of dairy products? A lactose intolerant child might eat them. What about meat? Eating it raw is bad for you, so that's a danger as well.

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

The usual go-to nighttime drunken dish is pita or durum, served with a large bowl of chili on the side so you can slather it yourself. There's a large middle eastern population here as well.

So is that who the chilis are for? I see this situation in germany and it's not the white people going for chili, usually

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Really? I see white people go for the chili often, but I agree its more often people from the middle east. Either way they're both danish, so (some) Danes like chili

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

Oh, so it's an excuse to be racist

Makes sense

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I would assume, but I don't think ramen is more popular with the middle eastern segment than anyone else. Its at least not a stereotype. This decision is just genuinely baffling. It's as if someone in the FDA ate the too spicy food, had a reaction and on that basis decided to ban it, instead of just saying "not for me".
If "too much for some" is a criteria now, then we can't really sell anything people are allergic to.

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[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

The store I first encountered these sold the 2x for less than the regular. So that's how I tried the 2x first lol

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 11 points 2 weeks ago

Priced to move... your colon to the toilet

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah the heat these are packing is legit lol. I enjoy spicy food most of the time, but the one time I had the Hot Chicken Stew I struggled to finish it.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

I sweated through a t-shirt after eating the 2x spicy ones

I would have probably been hospitalized if I ate the 3x spicy

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

I've had samyang ramen before I can confirm it's really spicy, jokes aside I can see it being too much for people who get bothered by spicy mayo.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I used to think I could handle pretty much anything in terms of spiciness, and those noodles kicked my ass

Calling it poisoning is a bit melodramatic though

[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

yea i don't think i'd ever try the 2x (or 3x god forbid) because the regular one (or the other flavors like quattro cheese or carbonara) are spicy af i wouldn't be surprised if 'experts' told me i shold wear special gloves when preparing the 3x one because i could blind myself if i rubbed my eye wrong

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[-] micnd90@hexbear.net 50 points 2 weeks ago

When I lived in Denmark "Red bell pepper" was unironically the spiciest Doritos flavor they sell

[-] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 24 points 2 weeks ago

Lightly salted Doritos?

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 23 points 2 weeks ago

Denmark has Taffel branded snacks too? And the logo and styling are completely different from what it is in Finland wowee

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago

lol, the Wikipedia says Denmark's national specialty "dish" (smørrebrød) is a piece of bread with cold cuts on it.

that's what people "make" when they are too tired to figure anything out. like exhausted single parent or low-tier conference fare.

[-] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

literally half a sandwhich, lmfao

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 22 points 2 weeks ago

for real. I thought it had to be a distortion. the wiki on danish cuisine is brutal though:

Historian Søren Mørch has characterized the Danish cuisine as a "garbage kitchen" of insipid, sweet and unspiced "baby food" where the tastes of milk and sweetness form the key elements. He believes that it arose because the export policy of the Danish food sector was to use the Danish home market as a "gutter" for left-over products, after high-quality bacon and butter had been sold abroad. Skimmed milk, meat scraps only suitable for chopping up, and the replacement product margarine are all products which Søren Mørch describes as residue products.

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[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 30 points 2 weeks ago

"I had a friend from Denmark who thought tasteless breaded shrimp with a little bit of ground pepper on it was too spicy.

Oh white people

[-] dkr567@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

Ground pepper spicy? I get that we all have different level of tolerance for spicy food but this is genuinely the first time ive heard of ground pepper being spicy for others.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

One of my friends legit can't handle black pepper, she says it's just overwhelming

She also lacks a sense of smell, so it probably has something to do with that

[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

I thought it wasn't a real thing until at a recent family gathering when food talk came up and I found out one of my cousins apparently cant stand too much black pepper, her baby nieces have a higher tolerance for spice than her.

Plain bizarre to even conceive of.

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

Black pepper is spicy. However, I only realized this like 15 or so years into my life when I made a Norwegian dish that called for copious amounts of whole peppercorns. In 99.9% of meals, you're not using enough to make it spicy.

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[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago

I have a friend who considers Tomatoes spicy. YMMV on whether she has a mild allergy or something but y'know

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[-] Egon@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

That guy must have been over exaggerating, people here put too much pepper on their food. My grandmom serves plates that are completely black. On the other hand I do have a friend who can taste if chili flakes have been near the plate...

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[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like mostly a social media panic type thing, this is the stuff that has been memed about all over twitter and tiktok right?

I think I saw a post in Danish also that was really really heavy handed on the danger to children thing, claimed that it was being recalled due to kid(s) in Germany eating it and starting to puke or getting high blood pressure.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Like, the package shows you a chicken breathing fire on it

I know media literacy is at an all time low, but chicken on fire should be a universal warning

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 26 points 2 weeks ago

Like, the package shows you a chicken breathing fire on it

Yeah but in Nordic countries we put similar imagery on products that have a homeopathic amount of capsaicin in them

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 25 points 2 weeks ago

homeopathic amount of capsaicin in them

hahaha

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[-] Egon@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah that was the food administration's post. They say that "too much capsaicin has had kids in Germany admitted to the ER" but they dont specifically talk about samyang or even just ramen. Just some vague product with a lot of capsaicin. They also mention that its marketed to kids and that it's hard to know how it will affect their children, which is like???

[-] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

The stuff in Germany was one kid sent to the ER after eating one of these carolina reaper chips on a dare in school - you know, the ones where it's just one chip in the entire coffin shaped box, that are intentionally marketed to people who want to brag about how much spice they can handle. The scoville on buldak aren't anywhere in the same ballpark as that and honestly i think all of this is kinda ridiculous when there's hot sauces where one drop too many can be enough to make an entire pot of chili too spicy for most people. Capsaicin is a thing that just exists in nature and in an untold number of preparations that are more powerful than a sauce package in instant ramen. I'm not familiar with buldak noodles myself because they aren't vegan afaik, but a friend of mine said that the 3x ones "are tasty". Granted, she once made a ramen place in our town run out of chili oil, but it was really weak chili oil.

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Apparently the 3x is only around 13 000 Scoville units, but the high volume of chili and the mixture of the sauce with the noodles makes it taste much, much hotter than that. At least that's what friend who tried some told me.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 19 points 2 weeks ago

We haben en serious problem wit der spicy ramen!

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

phoenix-objection-1phoenix-objection-2objection

That's clearly a German phonetic accent but these are Danes we're talking about! They talk like Swedes with hot potatos in their mouths

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

edgeworth-shrug that's clearly a Dutch accent and Danes sound like Dutch people, so it's closer than whatever an American ideas of a Swedish accent would be

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

To me Dutch sounds like if German fucked Danish

[-] Egon@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

I once had a Dutch guy come up to me and do weird guttural sounds, then he burst out laughing and said "That's you! That's what you guys sound like!"
I didn't have the heart to tell him that I thought he was just speaking Dutch...

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

I die a bit inside every time someone makes fun of Finnish people by putting on a stereotypical comedy Scandi accent. Thick Finnish accents are very distinctive and very goofy and I wish they were more widely known

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[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago

Damn they must consider a Sichuan hotpot to be a weapon of mass destruction.

[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

Probably just is not actually accessible in Denmark outside of specialty asian market stores or online order.

You're probably lucky to find dirt tier sichuan peppercorns in the regular grocery store.

[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

Isn't the spice packaged separately. Like you can't just add a warning on the container?

[-] WashedAnus@hexbear.net 17 points 2 weeks ago

The container already says it's super spicy and you shouldn't use the whole packet of spice

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[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 15 points 2 weeks ago

scared oh shit I didn't know they came in 3x

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[-] AmericaHaterSexHaver@hexbear.net 14 points 2 weeks ago

Rlly funny from the country that eats rotten eggs and fermented fish lmao

[-] dead@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago

For people doubting that Samyang 2x is unbearably hot, watch the woman's reaction in this video. I've ate whole raw ghost peppers and enjoyed it. I enjoy super-hot hot sauces, 100k+ scovilles. Samyang 2x is just unpleasant to eat. Samyang's other spicy noodles are really good.

https://youtu.be/ubqAHNWnhkY?t=179

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

People realize they don't need to put the entire spice pack in right? Holy lmayo.

[-] ta00000@hexbear.net 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

You can't say you don't know what you're getting into. We have three bombs, a character crying and breathing fire, several angry peppers, and it says 3x spicy right there. I don't know how much clearer they could make it. shrug-outta-hecks

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