Although what upsets me the most, even though it doesn't surprise me, is that this is what finally made them turn on Biden. And for such self-centered reasons such as "the safety of the nation". He's fine when he's assisting genocide and pushing to start WWIII, right? Fuck America.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago

No, see, according to Biden, Trump is going to start WWIII when he lets Russia take over all of Ukraine and then Russia will invade Poland and that will pull in the rest of NATO.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (6 children)

How are they even gonna replace him at this point? We're past the point of a primary, so unless he steps down, they are bound to him. And to my knowledge, him stepping down means Kamala becomes the defacto nominee; she's even less popular than he was lmao.

They fucked themselves sideways with their hubris, and now that their 'vote blue no matter who' idiocy has predictably buried them, they want out?

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

I think the perfect liberal candidate is a relatively good-looking dude in his 40s or 50s who seems like he knows his way around corporate leadership.

I'm not even kidding.

Liberal worldview:

They want presentability and decorum.
They don't want anything to fundamentally change.
They love things like Apple and the neoliberal corporate aesthetic.

Liberal voters want a handsome corpo.

That's why they love Obama, Trudeau, et al.

macron

It is absolutely ridiculous how out of touch they are with their own voter base.

[–] Sasuke@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago (3 children)

would voters even accept a new, unelected candidate this close to the election? it seems very risky, and i think most of the "top tier" candidates that has been suggested (gruesome, whitmer) are aware of that and would rather wait another four years than burn their chances at becoming president now on a desperate gamble from the DNC

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 20 points 4 months ago

Gruesome Gavin 100% wants this and has been engineering it already.

He's been positioning himself as close to the Biden campaign for a while, whislt not engaging on the controversial stuff. Even before the debate his people were apparrently spending a lot of energy and favours making sure he'd be the first one called on in the spin room and the first to give interview with the TV networks after the debate. Despite saying that you "go home with the one who brought you to the dance" and a bunch of other metaphors designed to subtly point out Biden's age, while claiming he was backing him 100%, his whole performance was highlighting how different he would be from Biden in terms of ability.

Then, as he was leaving, some smaller press junket reporter trying to ask him questions kept shouting an almost certainly planted question about he "is surely now the democratic favourite to take over" and he could barely keep up the act, shit eating grin beaming from ear to ear and laughing at how well it all went when he thought he was out of frame.

The knives are out and Gavin is already making his play to force the issue, while claiming the opposite, and be annoited as the Biden-campaign friendly candidate.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

And, there, ye might miss the forests for the trees...

Regardless of how Biden acts, the voters are basically voting for the 'good' cop or the bad cop party, as usual... or they do not and choose a 3rd option...

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

Is it a gamble? It shouldn't be that hard to beat trump. Any other possible candidate would've smoked him in the debate.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Former United States Secretary of the Treasury William Gibbs McAdoo, 1920 candidate James Cox and Henry Ford were the main candidates. Though McAdoo won a vast majority of states, and well more than half of the popular vote, in those twelve states that held primary elections, it meant little to his performance nationwide. Once at the convention, the party was deadlocked for 102 straight ballots, before dark horse candidate John W. Davis, (who wasn't even a formal candidate when he arrived at the convention) was chosen on the 103rd ballot. Davis went on to lose the election to the Republican candidate, President Calvin Coolidge.

Exactly 100 years ago

[–] RION@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Bro's name was McAdoo

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

At the 1924 Democratic National Convention, McAdoo received the support of the Ku Klux Klan. He refused to answer questions on if he was a member of the KKK and he did not repudiate the KKK causing the Catholic vote to turn against him. McAdoo defeated Oscar Underwood, who was an opponent of the Ku Klux Klan and Prohibition, in the Georgia primary and split the Alabama delegation.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

super fun to say outloud.

Mc-A DOO

[–] dumpster_dove@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like a name for a tropical bird

[–] Des@hexbear.net 2 points 4 months ago

yes! one that's named after the sound it makes

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 7 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If he steps out of the race now, do his delegates become unbound?

It wouldn't automatically go to Kamala, she isn't technically on the ticket even. That gets formalized at the convention.

Its all a moot point though because he won't step down

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

dude looked like he could die any week now

[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

Heart attack gun

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kamala and AOC ticket maybe to try and get the young vote?

[–] BakerBagel@midwest.social 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

She technically will be old enough to run since she turns 35 in October. But jeez, what a bleak ticket.

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

That’d be so bleak given she is a goddamn Zionist now, but it would be totally possible cause Democrats don’t know how to read the room.

[–] HarrietTubman@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago

Imagine being so incoherent even CNN won't stick up for you anymore

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago

All three of the replacements he suggested were women. lmao the glass cliff is real

[–] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Kristoff best pack his bags, cuz that's the only possible effect from his tepid rebuttal of biden, now. It's not like anyone seriously believes the DNC will move on from Biden, right? Why even bring it up now unless you are tired of your PR job?

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I don't know, Scarborough and that lady he's always on with were close to tears a few minutes ago and "tepidly suggested" the same thing, that's literally Biden's favorite show, they hold the number one spot in terms of Biden bootlickers

Vox, CNN, NYT and now Scarborough, something seems to have broken in the mainstream media, some line was cross......but you're right, how far are they really gonna take this?

[–] Leon_Grotsky@hexbear.net 11 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

and that lady he's always on with

That's Mika Brzezinski, daughter of infamous cold warrior Zbigniew Brzezinski

[–] Dingus_Khan@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

Holy shit lol, wtf?

[–] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

Also Scarborough's wife lmao