Blows my mind that there are people who'd rather have billions of dollars and live in a bunker for the rest of their lives than have a comparatively modest existence in a flourishing environment with fresh air and sunshine, and that those people are being trusted to make decisions for the rest of us, but here we are.
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Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Slop posts go in c/slop. Don't post low-hanging fruit here.
The problem is that even a billionaire can't solve the problem, only a revolutionary transformation of society can solve it. Most ruling classes tend to perceive revolution as a fate worse than death, so bunkers are the only option left to them
In Douglas Rushkoff's book "Survival of the Richest" he talks about the survival ideas of these rich morons he talked to at some event. They were discussing strategies to keep security guards loyal in a post apocalyptic scenario. Shit like shock collars, timed safes, anything besides treating them well. It's a good book.
They'd rather keep driving us towards an apocalypse they wouldn't survive than do something to avoid it.
So maachiaveli wringing a book telling failsons to earn the respect and loyalty of their subordinates was necessaries after all.
If they were all forced down into a bunker or mineshaft for an indefinite amount of time then they might understand better. It would be a great learning experience for them.
May I make a recommendation.
Very homely You could live forever down there.
A person could spend the rest of their life in there.
Mr. President, we must not allow a mineshaft gap!
Billionaire cheerleader "Kurzgesagt" has similar blinders, especially with the claim that "Team Humanity wins" if 1% of the global population survives an environmental collapse.
What do the "winners" have left to work with on a planet with conditions that killed 99% of the rest of them?
What do the "winners" have left to work with on a planet with conditions that killed 99% of the rest of them?
I always laugh at these videos saying humanity surviving in small numbers after countless lives wiped out is a victory. Like to make neoliberals feel better about the hell they helped create. Hell they do that shit for nuclear war. "See its ok because humanity will survive in small pockets in horrible conditions"
Listen, we should fake a catastrophic collapse, send all the billionaires into their bunkers (if they do not have a bunker, the state will build them one). Once they're siloed off, control all information coming into the bunkers to maintain the illusion of the apocalypse. Meanwhile, we clean up the world and dismantle any vestiges of capitalism, build utopia etc., at which point we make contact with the now feral remnants of the billionaire class, tell them everything we did, show them around a wonderful world free of want and pain, make them confront the fact that they were the ones holding humanity back.
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And THEN we put them up against the wall.
Alternatively: Trick them into hiding in their bunkers, then pave the bunkers over so they're stuck down there.
Suggestion; how about we start with Phase 4?
Best Twilight Zone episode concept ever.
I dunno. If I was a billionaire I would have not have experienced negative consequences for my actions in a time frame I could remember so it would be a safe bet that trend would continue forward
you fool, you absolute buffoon. with enough money, jeff bezos can simply buy Earth 2: Here We Go Again.
I wanna see a space version of the Titan submersible
But this time with bezos and musk
Isn’t the whole point of having a billion dollars lording it over people?
Yes and that is one of the reasons I do not understand these people at all. Like I see more humanity (not goodness, like a raw understandable human essence) in a guy like Genghis Khan than a guy like Bezos. Like at least the blood of the conqueror runs hot. The modern billionaire have ice water in their veins. Pure death camp commandant vibes.
Genghis Khan's desires were ultimately subject to phsyical constraints and diminishing returns but capitalism removes natural limits because accumulation can be infinite
Weber paraphrases Marx as appreciating that “the limits to the exploitation of the feudal serf were determined by the walls of the stomach of the feudal lord.” Under capitalism, on the other hand, we have profit-oriented commodity production. This means that neither “stomach walls” nor any other kind of natural limit impose themselves: accumulation can be infinite, and since everything is tradeable with everything else, the capitalist not only can but must (in order to compete) accumulate without limit.
Very true. Which is why I sometimes think about how it's not really "greed" that capitalists possess. We need a new word to correctly describe the phenomenon.
Their dopamine receptors are blown out from money. They also use terrifying amounts of drugs. So their brains are mush from lack of consequences and they do their best to scramble them further further
They also use terrifying amounts of drugs.
Maybe not indefinitely, but possibly for their own personal lifetime
Or atleast until their air vents get filled in with concrete
Don't forget the burning tires before the concrete
Bleach + Ammonia