Trumps plan to “solve russias war against ukraine” is to “give up”.
Is this the man you want leading your country?
Imagine FDR “solving ww2” by surrendering to japan and the nazis
this post was submitted on 26 Sep 2024
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That's not even a "concept of a plan"
Well, concepts of a plan
This was his strategy in Afghanistan too!
Arguably that was always going to end with a Taliban takeover, but we could've done that without giving them a leg up.
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No need to imagine when we have history to reference.
To his credit, Chamberlain wasn't as bad as he's made out. When he implemented his policy of appeasement, Britain was not actually capable of meaningfully resisting nazi Germany. He basically brought time to bring Britain back to a war footing. When it became obvious to the public that war was coming, he fell on his sword. This cleared the way for Churchill to take charge, without significant infighting. He also inherited Britain on a far better war footing, and even then it was a close thing.
Basically, Chamberlain knew his plan wouldn't work long term. He took one "for king and country", likely knowing how it would be perceived. I can at least respect him for that.
I'm not arguing it was or wasn't right for Britain position at the time. Just making the point we know, from direct history, a policy of appeasement does nothing to stop further advancement.
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Appeasement doesn't work. Appeasement never works. It didn't work with Hitler and it won't work with Put-ler. This piece of shit is a useful idiot and I'm saddened that quite a few people today lap this shit up and see this as the best path forward. Ukraine may be scarred now but they can and will rebuild when they win this war. Slava Ukraini
Appeasement can work, just not in the obvious way. It's like throwing steaks at a pack of hungry wolves. It won't slow them for long, but it might give you enough time to find the shells, and load the shotgun.
What Trump is doing doesn't even rise to the level of appeasement. He's just begging like a whipped dog to his master.
To be clear, even if it was appeasement, it still would accomplish nothing since the US does not need to buy time to build up their military.
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I know a Ukrainan born US citizen with a significant amount of family still living in Ukraine who is also a Trump supporter. He hates Russia and wants Ukraine to maintain independence. I asked him a couple of weeks ago what he thought would happen to Ukraine if Trump was reelected and he said Ukraine would probably be left to fend for themselves. This statement did not come with remorse or condemnation, it was delivered in the same way you would describe the winner of a sporting event. A simple statement of fact.
I don't know how to respond to that kind of thinking. If the understanding that your vote might lead to the death of your family members doesn't break through the political polarization in this country and make you reconsider then I don't think anything will.
I'm trans, and I'm not the only one in my family.
My Dad claims he votes Republican for tax purposes.
So to him the potential to possibly pay less taxes is more important than his own child's safety and right to exist.
And that's not even mentioning that there is like a 99.98% chance that nothing Trump does with respect to taxes will ever affect him (positively) in any way.
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Your dad is a cheap asshole who is making your country worse by doing so. Please let him know
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OF COURSE HE DOES
Remember, that Putin has ambitions way beyond Ukraine. He will likely want the EU and NATO to pull out from CEE at minimum, if not those countries to join his empire in some way or another.
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Fuck that, but also notice "Ukraine is not Ukraine anymore". This is a dangerous part of propaganda.
People will rage against the headline and who knows if he will eventually back track on that, but he already sold the underlying message without any serious risk of backlash.
Crazy that these reporters can understand what Trump is trying to articulate around that mouthful of Putin's dick.
“Any deal, even the worst deal, would have been better than what we have right now.
And this just shows how uninformed Trump is.
- Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014 and took Crimea! Ukraine did not attack.
- Russia then invade in Luhansk and Donbas and illegally annex both regions in 2022
So what deal is Trump talking about that would have left Ukraine alone? 2014? Nope. 2022? Nope.
The only deal Putin is willing to accept is total control over the sovereign nation of Ukraine.
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Well, he might be on to something.
I'm studying world history for the first time and I've so far gotten to 1938 and while I know absolutely nothing that happened after that, so far it looks like this suggestion has worked with this Hitler fellow.
The person Europe appeased eventually went on to go and shoot Hitler, afterall.
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trump embodies pretty much every single negative adjective you can possibly apply to a human being
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The Art of the Squeal
Who really believes Russia will stop at their current claims? Once they achieve their current goals, they'll attack for more, and more, and more. The killing doesn't stop.
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"Launch codes, ownership of the United States, the souls of America's first born. Ya know, just being reasonable here..." - Donny Turnip
Of course the perennial misbehaver thinks that misbehavior should be rewarded.
It makes sense that Trump wants to surrender. He’s a pussy.
He lacks the warmth and depth to be one.
Donald, you bitch, you are the biggest coward. Go off yourself for humanity's sake
I mean, he’s already given him countless blowjobs, so yeah.
It didn't need to happen. It's your fault. Your skirt was a finger too short, Ukraine.
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sure give to him one piece of lead at a time. high speed
Ah, the negotiator /s
Alternate headline: ~~Trump~~ Neville Chamberlain suggests giving ~~Vladimir Putin~~ Adolf Hitler whatever he wants
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Why don't we just give up, Pardner?
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"you can never replace the dead people, so many dead people"
Jfc this guy somehow made it? How about, "we can never replace the countless lives lost in this war, or repair the families that have been broken"
Idk. Is it great? Nah, but I can type a thing in like 20 seconds and this orange potato just fuckin speaks like a middle school student. How the fuck
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