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back in my map era, we're ukrainemaxxing right now


Declarations of the imminent doom of Ukraine are a news megathread specialty, and this is not what I am doing here - mostly because I'm convinced that whenever we do so, the war extends another three months to spite us. Ukraine has been in an essentially apocalyptic crisis for over a year now after the failure of the 2023 counteroffensive, unable to make any substantial progress and resigned to merely being a persistent nuisance (and arms market!) as NATO fights to the last Ukrainian. In this context, predicting a terminal point is difficult, as things seem to always be going so badly that it's hard to understand how and why they fight on. In every way, Ukraine is a truly shattered country, barely held together by the sheer combined force of Western hegemony. And that hegemony is weakening.

I therefore won't be giving any predictions of a timeframe for a Ukrainian defeat, but the coming presidency of Trump is a big question mark for the conflict. Trump has talked about how he wishes for the war to end and for a deal to be made with Putin, but Trump also tends to change his mind on an issue at least three or four times before actually making a decision, simply adopting the position of who talked to him last. And, of course, his ability to end the war might be curtailed by a military-industrial complex (and various intelligence agencies) that want to keep the money flowing.

The alignment of the US election with the accelerating rate of Russian gains is pretty interesting, with talk of both escalation and de-escalation coinciding - the former from Biden, and the latter from Trump. Russia very recently performed perhaps the single largest aerial attack of Ukraine of the entire war, striking targets across the whole country with missiles and drones from various platforms. In response, the US is talking about allowing Ukraine to hit long-range targets in Russia (but the strategic value of this, at this point, seems pretty minimal).

Additionally, Russia has made genuine progress in terms of land acquisition. We aren't talking about endless and meaningless battles over empty fields anymore. Some of the big Ukrainian strongholds that we've been spending the last couple years speculating over - Chasiv Yar, Kupiansk, Orikhiv - are now being approached and entered by Russian forces. The map is actually changing now, though it's hard to tell as Ukraine is so goddamn big.

Attrition has finally paid off for Russia. An entire generation of Ukrainians has been fed into the meat grinder. Recovery will take, at minimum, decades - more realistically, the country might be permanently ruined, until that global communist revolution comes around at least. And they could have just made a fucking deal a month into the war.


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https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.
https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.
https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.
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[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 67 points 4 weeks ago

trump and his incompetent cabinet can't come soon enough, I would prefer to not be vaporized by a russian ICBM

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 67 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (17 children)

ICC woke up wowee

russian guidance for icbm so shit they missed kiev by 1000 kms.

Weird news all around

*big brainy take, maybe iran gave them one of their thingies with shorter range

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[–] Halloweenbean@hexbear.net 67 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

More news nobody is paying attention to: apparently the vp of the Philippines threatened to kill the president. The dutertes and the military dictatorship clan are beefing.

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 67 points 1 month ago (4 children)
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[–] sisatici@hexbear.net 67 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

Ngl it is admirable how chuds brainwash theirself into thinking first person on the epsteins list is gonna go after every other one. Strong dedication right there

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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 67 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (11 children)

transphobia mention

As much as I like Norm Finklestein on Palestine, he is such a boomer when it comes to wokeism or trans people.

What redneck hillbilly cares about trans people having access to puberty blockers? Dems didn't campaign on that. If you ask hillbillies if they support puberty blockers, they'll 100% say "what's that?"

And whenever Norm talks about Palestine he will meticulously talk about his sources, UN, HRW etc. But he just says that puberty blockers are bad for you is backed by "overwhelming evidence" with no sources. Biology isn't his field.

And I don't agree that Trump can't be a fascist strongman dictator because Supreme Court will prevent that and because US has no "left".

It is true, US has no significant left wing opposition, however, fascism wasn't just about fighting the leftists, it also meant othering of minorities and directing the public anger towards them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBz68F1vTlw

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[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 66 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

This is part of Moscow’s New Years’ decorations. It contains a banner with a quote from Xi Jinping.

Russia has already become a Chinese colony lol

PS the quote came from Records of the Three Kingdoms but was quoted by Xi Jinping in 2017.

It translates roughly to “the most delicious soup is made by combining many different ingredients”, which has been interpreted as “there are no superior or inferior civilizations, only civilizations with their distinct and regional characteristics. These distinctions should not be a source of global conflicts, but as driving force that propels the progress of human civilization.”

EDIT: did a search and this is the more formal explanation:

This apt expression is from the ancient history book San Guo Zhi (The Records of the Three Kingdoms). It also means that one can work well by unifying all forces. Respecting diversity of things to seek harmonious coexistence represents an insightful summary of the essence of traditional Chinese culture. It is also a Chinese advocacy for coexistence of diverse civilizations in today's world.

At the UN Office at Geneva in January 2017, Xi Jinping said: Delicious soup is cooked by combining different ingredients. Diversity of human civilizations not only defines our world, but also drives human progress. As humanity is in an era of numerous challenges, China's proposition is to build a global community of shared future.

In a world with colorful cultures, countries should abandon "pride and prejudice," respect each other, treat each other with equality, seek harmony without uniformity, and appreciate the diversity of civilizations around the world.

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[–] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 66 points 4 weeks ago (12 children)

TLDR : China is Issuing US Bonds now .. gangster-spongebob

spoilerThe story around China issuing USD-denominated sovereign bonds in Saudi Arabia is generating an enormous amount of buzz in China, and could potentially be immensely important.

I strongly suspect it's a message to the upcoming Trump administration.

Let me explain what seems to be going on.

On the face of it, it's not a major story: China issued $2 billion in USD-denominated sovereign bonds in Saudi Arabia, which means that investors lent USD to the Chinese government that they promised to pay back. That's what a bond is. So far, relatively boring.

The first somewhat interesting aspect of it is that the bonds were oversubscribed by almost 20x (meaning $40+ billion in demand for $2 billion worth of bonds), which is far more demand than usual for USD sovereign bonds. Typically US Treasury auctions see oversubscription rate between 2x to 3x so there obviously seems to be very strong market appeal for China's dollar-denominated debt.

The second interesting aspect is that the interest rate on the bonds was remarkably close to US Treasury rates (just 1-3 basis points higher, i.e. 0.01-0.03%), which means that China is now able to borrow money - in US dollars (!) - at virtually the same rate as the US government itself. That's the case for no other country in the world. As a benchmark, countries with the highest credit ratings (AAA) typically pay at least 10-20 basis points over US Treasuries in the rare instances when they issue USD bonds.

The third interesting aspect is the venue itself for this bond sale: Saudi Arabia. This is unusual since sovereign bonds are typically issued in major financial centers, not in Riyadh. The choice of Saudi Arabia and the fact that the Saudis agreed to this is particularly significant given its historical role in the global dollar system, the so-called 'petrodollar' system which I don't need to explain... By issuing dollar bonds in Saudi Arabia that compete directly with US Treasuries, and getting essentially the same interest rate, China is demonstrating it can operate as an alternative manager of dollar liquidity right in the heart of the petrodollar system. For Saudi Arabia, which holds hundreds of billions in dollar reserves, this creates a new option for investing their dollars: they can invest it with the Chinese government instead of the US government.

Ok, that's all interesting but still not the main reason why Chinese social media is abuzz. The reason why is because they postulate that this is trial round by China to demonstrate to the US that they can effectively use their own currency against them, with potentially dramatic consequences.

How?

First of all, think it through, imagine if China scales this up and instead of issuing $2 billion worth of bonds, they start issuing 10s or 100s of billions worth of it.

What this means for the US is that China would effectively be competing with the US Treasury in the global dollar market. Instead of countries like Saudi Arabia automatically recycling their dollars into US Treasury bonds, they could put them into Chinese dollar bonds that pay the same rate.

This would create a parallel dollar system where China, not the US, controls part of the flow of dollars. The US would still print the dollars, but China would increasingly manage where they go. Imagine that...

Another critical aspect is that every dollar that goes into Chinese bonds instead of US Treasuries is one less dollar helping to finance US government spending. At a time when the US is running massive deficits and needs to constantly sell Treasury bonds to fund itself, having China emerge as a competing dollar bond issuer that can match Treasury rates could pose immense financing problems for the US government. It could effectively end the US's so-called “exorbitant privilege”.

But wait, you might ask yourself, what's the point of China having so many dollars? Don't they transfer the problem to themselves: they too need to find a place to invest all these dollars, don't they?

You'd be right, the last thing China needs is more US dollars: in 2023 it ran a US dollar trade surplus of $823.2 billion, and for 2024, it's expected to be $940 billion. China is already absolutely awash with dollars.

But that's where the beauty of the Belt & Road Initiative comes in. Out of the 193 countries in the world, 152 of these countries are part of the BRI. And a very common characteristic many of these countries have is: they owe debt in USD, to the US government or other Western lenders.

This is where China's strategy could become truly clever. China could use its US dollars to help Belt & Road countries pay off their dollar debts to Western lenders. But here's the key: in exchange for helping these countries clear their dollar debts, China could arrange to be repaid in yuan, or in strategic resources, or through other bilateral arrangements.

This would create a triple win for China: they get rid of their excess dollars, they help their partner countries escape dollar dependency, and they deepen these countries' economic integration with China instead of the US.

For BRI countries, this is attractive because they can escape the trap of dollar-denominated debt (and the threat of US financial sanctions) and get likely better conditions with China, which will help their development.

In effect this would China placing itself as an intermediary at the heart of the dollar system, where the dollars still eventually make their way back to the US - just through a path that builds Chinese rather than American influence and progressively undermines the US's ability to finance itself (with all the consequences this has on inflation, etc.).

At this stage you probably tell yourself "come on, there's no way China can do that, the US government surely has tools at its disposal to prevent this stuff". And the answer, surprisingly, is that there is actually little the U.S. can do that doesn't undermine them in some shape or form.

The most obvious response would be to threaten sanctions against countries - like Saudi Arabia - or institutions that buy Chinese dollar bonds. But this would further demonstrate that dollar assets aren't actually safe from US political interference, further encouraging countries to diversify, compounding the problem. The dollar's strength partly comes from network effects - everyone uses it because everyone else uses it - but as we've seen with Russia sanctions create a coordinating moment for countries to move away together, weakening these network effects.

Another option would be for the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates to make US Treasuries more attractive. But this would be self-defeating: it would increase the US government's own borrowing costs at a time when they're already struggling with massive deficits, potentially triggering a recession. And China, getting similar rates as the US, could simply match any rate increase.

The US could also go for the "nuclear option" of restricting China's ability to clear dollar transactions but this would effectively immediately fragment the global financial system, undermining the dollar's role as the global reserve currency - exactly what the US wants to avoid. And with China being the most important trading partner of the immense majority of the world's countries, nothing is less sure that the U.S. would win at this game...

In short this seems to be like some sort of Tai Chi 'four ounces moving a thousand pounds' (四兩撥千斤) move by China, using minimal force to redirect the dollar's strength in a way that benefits China.

Like I wrote at the beginning however, at this stage this is most likely just a message by China to the upcoming Trump administration: "we can do this so maybe think very carefully about all the nasty things you have in mind for us..." The beauty of this move is how strategically elegant it is: it costs China almost nothing to demonstrate, but forces Washington to contemplate some very uncomfortable possibilities.

@ Arnault Betrand

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[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 66 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

A gift to the Korean people: Vladimir Putin gave the DPRK zoo more than 70 animals from the Moscow Zoo.

The animals were delivered to Pyongyang by plane, they were accompanied by veterinarians of the capital's zoo. Now an African lion, two brown bears, two domestic yaks, five white cockatoos, twenty-five pheasants of different species, forty mandarin ducks will now live in the North Korean zoo.

Sending animals to the capital of the DPRK was a continuation of the previously set vector for the development of bilateral cooperation between the Moscow Zoo and the Pyongyang Central Zoo.   With the support of the Moscow Government, we plan to expand cooperation with our North Korean colleagues in matters related to joint scientific and educational activities, as well as the exchange of experience and information on the care of rare animal species," said the general director of the Moscow Zoo.

The Pyongyang Central Zoo has been operating for 65 years. The transfer of animals became possible thanks to the Pyongyang Zoo's membership in the Eurasian Regional Association of Zoos and Aquariums. Moscow already transferred birds to North Korea this spring.

Russia supplies the DPRK with zoo animals. This is a threat to world peace and cannot be tolerated.

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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 66 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

The reasoning behind this attack seems to be to force Russia's hand, lest Putin look weak, and then in turn force Trump's hand, lest he look weak should he come in and attempt to deescalate after Russia and NATO start actually trading blows without all the subterfuge. It seems like the Biden/Starmer/Macron triumvirate are hoping for a "heads we win, tails you lose" style scenario. A "November Surprise" if you will. I'm not sure if it will play out that way, since a significant portion of Trump's base don't want war with Russia and he can probably come in and blame this all on Biden and the Democrats being warmongers.

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[–] Halloweenbean@hexbear.net 66 points 4 weeks ago

More news no one is paying attention to:

  1. Mali sacked it's civilian prime minister for turning on the junta, need more info on this

  2. Dead people are voting in US elections, it's just in Puerto Rico and probably for the statehood candidates so nobody cares https://periodismoinvestigativo.com/2024/11/activos-fallecidos-registro-elecciones-cee/

  3. The Philippines got hit by alot of megatyphoons, someone should check on the smaller islands.

  4. Dish TV and direct TV didn't merge because of a debt argument, expect hbo to spin off its cable channels which will then merge with whatever is left.

[–] companero@hexbear.net 66 points 4 weeks ago (3 children)

Well, I was kinda right about Russia's red line. That IRBM was definitely a response, though it was a very underwhelming one.

I did not expect the ICC to actually issue the arrest warrants, though. Good on them. Netanyahu is now effectively banned from Europe!

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago (3 children)
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[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/5bc1702c-bca3-4d87-8935-54d1b6f0c2f0.jpeg

Mozambique has an "authoritarian" Government now according to Wikipedia. SUS. Who edited it.

FRELIMO has controlled the country since its independence and they are only calling it authoritarian now?

Bangladesh reenactment soon? Where you have a somewhat unpopular incumbent Government that doesn't completely submit itself to Western capital but still implements some of the neoliberal policies making people angry.

West then uses that anger to get their puppet in power.

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[–] geikei@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (18 children)

There was some news a couple of days ago of China issuing 2 billion in USD denominated sovereign bonds that surprisingly was treated negatively or as some capitulation to the USD. I feel like this is quite different

I see this as creating a small triangular financing mechanism to help offload from the USD collectively with the central fulcrum being a facilitation of $ for ¥ swaps. The end result is global south nations pay down USD denominated liabilities & export resources to China earning RMB.

Simply put Gulf (and others) countries have too many dollars, China sells them these bonds, China uses these dollars to fund poor countries (investments, imports whatever), Poor countries use dollars to pay debt, Poor countries and gulf countries sell their natural resources to China in yuan then China sells its technology to these countries in yuan. Saudi flushes out $, China gains real resources, poor countries less poor, net negative for the volume of $ being outside of US borders. Meanwhile Chinese sovereign bond buyers are also using these bonds as collateral for Chinese tech & infrastructure projects in Saudi Arabia and their respective home countries. For China it also represents a very slow conversion of excess USD and their own trade surpluses into physical commodities while creating demand for their own currency. These commodities will continue to rise in USD prices while falling in RMB prices. They will have to repay these bonds upon maturity eventualy but it will be with cheaper dollars as commodities reprice higher in tighter supply-constrained markets. So even in the long term there is another net loss of USD.

Another angle is that many coutries are facing double digit borrowing costs in USDs to rollover or service USD debts. China can stabilise these at rates almost identical to US Treasury rates , these bonds were issued at just 1 base point over UST! after all. Another net negative effect on dollar circulation and accumulation. It basicaly tries to flip the Dollar Milkshake Theory to its head. China could have used its UST for this without all this roundabout thing, sure. But China is maintaining/reducing its UST reserves slowly because it doesnt want to blow up the global financial enviroment and insert a ton of volatility . But the needs of many countries for USD liquidity are way higher than China's rate of liquidation . This bridges that gap and allows China to do smth

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[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 65 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

https://theintercept.com/2024/11/24/defense-llama-meta-military/

The US Military has been using a version of Llama3.0 for advice on munitions and airstrikes to unsatisfactory results.

full textMeta’s in-house ChatGPT competitor is being marketed unlike anything that’s ever come out of the social media giant before: a convenient tool for planning airstrikes.

As it has invested billions into developing machine learning technology it hopes can outpace OpenAI and other competitors, Meta has pitched its flagship large language model, Llama, as a handy way of planning vegan dinners or weekends away with friends. A provision in Llama’s terms of service previously prohibited military uses, but Meta announced on November 4 that it was joining its chief rivals and getting into the business of war.

“Responsible uses of open source AI models promote global security and help establish the U.S. in the global race for AI leadership,” Meta proclaimed in a blog post by global affairs chief Nick Clegg.

One of these “responsible uses” is a partnership with Scale AI, a $14 billion machine learning startup and thriving defense contractor. Following the policy change, Scale now uses Llama 3.0 to power a chat tool for governmental users who want to “apply the power of generative AI to their unique use cases, such as planning military or intelligence operations and understanding adversary vulnerabilities,” according to a press release.

But there’s a problem: Experts tell The Intercept that the government-only tool, called “Defense Llama,” is being advertised by showing it give terrible advice about how to blow up a building. Scale AI defended the advertisement by telling The Intercept its marketing is not intended to accurately represent its product’s capabilities.

Llama 3.0 is a so-called open source model, meaning that users can download it, use it, and alter it, free of charge, unlike OpenAI’s offerings. Scale AI says it has customized Meta’s technology to provide military expertise.

Scale AI touts Defense Llama’s accuracy, as well as its adherence to norms, laws, and regulations: “Defense Llama was trained on a vast dataset, including military doctrine, international humanitarian law, and relevant policies designed to align with the Department of Defense (DoD) guidelines for armed conflict as well as the DoD’s Ethical Principles for Artificial Intelligence. This enables the model to provide accurate, meaningful, and relevant responses.”

The tool is not available to the public, but Scale AI’s website provides an example of this Meta-augmented accuracy, meaningfulness, and relevance. The case study is in weaponeering, the process of choosing the right weapon for a given military operation. An image on the Defense Llama homepage depicts a hypothetical user asking the chatbot: “What are some JDAMs an F-35B could use to destroy a reinforced concrete building while minimizing collateral damage?” The Joint Direct Attack Munition, or JDAM, is a hardware kit that converts unguided “dumb” bombs into a “precision-guided” weapon that uses GPS or lasers to track its target.

Defense Llama is shown in turn suggesting three different Guided Bomb Unit munitions, or GBUs, ranging from 500 to 2,000 pounds with characteristic chatbot pluck, describing one as “an excellent choice for destroying reinforced concrete buildings.”

Scale AI marketed its Defense Llama product with this image of a hypothetical chat. Screenshot of Scale AI marketing webpage Military targeting and munitions experts who spoke to The Intercept all said Defense Llama’s advertised response was flawed to the point of being useless. Not just does it gives bad answers, they said, but it also complies with a fundamentally bad question. Whereas a trained human should know that such a question is nonsensical and dangerous, large language models, or LLMs, are generally built to be user friendly and compliant, even when it’s a matter of life and death.

“If someone asked me this exact question, it would immediately belie a lack of understanding about munitions selection or targeting.”

“I can assure you that no U.S. targeting cell or operational unit is using a LLM such as this to make weaponeering decisions nor to conduct collateral damage mitigation,” Wes J. Bryant, a retired targeting officer with the U.S. Air Force, told The Intercept, “and if anyone brought the idea up, they’d be promptly laughed out of the room.”

Munitions experts gave Defense Llama’s hypothetical poor marks across the board. The LLM “completely fails” in its attempt to suggest the right weapon for the target while minimizing civilian death, Bryant told The Intercept.

“Since the question specifies JDAM and destruction of the building, it eliminates munitions that are generally used for lower collateral damage strikes,” Trevor Ball, a former U.S. Army explosive ordnance disposal technician, told The Intercept. “All the answer does is poorly mention the JDAM ‘bunker busters’ but with errors. For example, the GBU-31 and GBU-32 warhead it refers to is not the (V)1. There also isn’t a 500-pound penetrator in the U.S. arsenal.”

Ball added that it would be “worthless” for the chatbot give advice on destroying a concrete building without being provided any information about the building beyond it being made of concrete.

Defense Llama’s advertised output is “generic to the point of uselessness to almost any user,” said N.R. Jenzen-Jones, director of Armament Research Services. He also expressed skepticism toward the question’s premise. “It is difficult to imagine many scenarios in which a human user would need to ask the sample question as phrased.”

In an emailed statement, Scale AI spokesperson Heather Horniak told The Intercept that the marketing image was not meant to actually represent what Defense Llama can do, but merely “makes the point that an LLM customized for defense can respond to military-focused questions.” Horniak added that “The claim that a response from a hypothetical website example represents what actually comes from a deployed, fine-tuned LLM that is trained on relevant materials for an end user is ridiculous.”

Despite Scale AI’s claims that Defense Llama was trained on a “vast dataset” of military knowledge, Jenzen-Jones said the artificial intelligence’s advertised response was marked by “clumsy and imprecise terminology” and factual errors, confusing and conflating different aspects of different bombs. “If someone asked me this exact question, it would immediately belie a lack of understanding about munitions selection or targeting,” he said. Why an F-35? Why a JDAM? What’s the building, and where is it? All of this important, Jenzen-Jones said, is stripped away by Scale AI’s example.

Bryant cautioned that there is “no magic weapon that prevents civilian casualties,” but he called out the marketing image’s suggested use of the 2,000-pound GBU-31, which was “utilized extensively by Israel in the first months of the Gaza campaign, and as we know caused massive civilian casualties due to the manner in which they employed the weapons.”

Scale did not answer when asked if Defense Department customers are actually using Defense Llama as shown in the advertisement. On the day the tool was announced, Scale AI provided DefenseScoop a private demonstration using this same airstrike scenario. The publication noted that Defense Llama provided “provided a lengthy response that also spotlighted a number of factors worth considering.” Following a request for comment by The Intercept, the company added a small caption under the promotional image: “for demo purposes only.”

Meta declined to comment.

While Scale AI’s marketing scenario may be a hypothetical, military use of LLMs is not. In February, DefenseScoop reported that the Pentagon’s AI office had selected Scale AI “to produce a trustworthy means for testing and evaluating large language models that can support — and potentially disrupt — military planning and decision-making.” The company’s LLM software, now augmented by Meta’s massive investment in machine learning, has contracted with the Air Force and Army since 2020. Last year, Scale AI announced its system was the “the first large language model (LLM) on a classified network,” used by the XVIII Airborne Corps for “decision-making.” In October, the White House issued a national security memorandum directing the Department of Defense and intelligence community to adopt AI tools with greater urgency. Shortly after the memo’s publication, The Intercept reported that U.S. Africa Command had purchased access to OpenAI services via a contract with Microsoft.

Unlike its industry peers, Scale AI has never shied away from defense contracting. In a 2023 interview with the Washington Post, CEO Alexandr Wang, a vocal proponent of weaponized AI, described himself as a “China-hawk” and said he hoped Scale could “be the company that helps ensure that the United States maintains this leadership position.” Its embrace of military work has seemingly charmed investors, which include Peter Thiel’s Founders Fund, Y Combinator, Nvidia, Amazon, and Meta. “With Defense Llama, our service members can now better harness generative AI to address their specific mission needs,” Wang wrote in the product’s announcement.

But the munitions experts who spoke to The Intercept expressed confusion over who, exactly, Defense Llama is marketing to with the airstrike demo, questioning why anyone involved in weaponeering would know so little about its fundamentals that they would need to consult a chatbot in the first place. “If we generously assume this example is intended to simulate a question from an analyst not directly involved in planning and without munitions-specific expertise, then the answer is in fact much more dangerous,” Jenzen-Jones explained. “It reinforces a probably false assumption (that a JDAM must be used), it fails to clarify important selection [.]

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[–] xiaohongshu@hexbear.net 65 points 4 weeks ago (7 children)

If the US gets into WW3 before Trump’s inauguration, can Biden declare himself as the war president through martial law?

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[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 65 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I recently saw a cybertruck with a Jill Stein bumper sticker, which is just funny.

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 64 points 4 weeks ago

What level of analogies are you on?

Idk, nuremberg or someshit.

you are but a child, watch this:

[–] companero@hexbear.net 64 points 1 month ago (13 children)

Here's an example of how Russia could retaliate, without technically escalating:

I don't think they will do exactly that, but it shows how serious Biden's brinkmanship is.

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[–] iie@hexbear.net 64 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (13 children)

We might benefit from more cross-posting from the news mega to the broader site. Maybe with a time delay.

I don't want to dilute activity in here (hence the time delay idea) but it seems bad for site health that the main hexbear feed is all dumb jokes and struggle session discourse because so much of the serious discussion is concentrated in here.

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 64 points 4 weeks ago (10 children)
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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 64 points 3 weeks ago

zionazis bomb beirut again sadness-abysmal

[–] Tervell@hexbear.net 64 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

https://xcancel.com/MarkAmesExiled/status/1860510537303441418

@AntonLaGuardia: INDOPACOM commander, Adml Samuel Paparo, says he expects Russia will provide submarine technology to China that will help it to close the gap with the US. Also expects RU to provide missile and sub technology to North Korea. #HFX2024

Biden’s idea of a smart tradeoff: approving/assisting ATACMs missile strikes inside Russia, changing nothing in a lost war…vs pushing Russia to transfer submarine tech to China and N Korea giving them near peer submarine capabilities. He’s just that fucking good.

putin-wink solidarity xigma-male ... biden-forgor

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (34 children)

Ukraine just hit a military installation in Bryansk with ATACMS missiles in the early hours of this morning, five intercepted but one got through according to the Russian MOD. Putin has also signed Russia's updated nuclear doctrine into law, allowing for a nuclear response to a large scale non nuclear attack by a non nuclear state, aided by a nuclear state.

Russian MoD statement:

Translation of Russian MoD statement

  • Tonight at 3.25 a.m. the enemy struck a facility on the territory of the Bryansk region with six ballistic missiles.

  • According to confirmed information, American-made ATACMS operational-tactical ballistic missiles were used.

  • As a result of an anti-missile battle by S-400 SAMs and Pantsir SAMs, five missiles were shot down and one was damaged.

  • Its fragments fell on the technical territory of a military facility in the Bryansk region, causing a fire, which was promptly extinguished.

  • There were no casualties or damage.

Russian Ministry of Defence

The statement appears in contradiction with the latest video from the area, showing a clear explosion. It seems as if the damaged missile got through for a direct hit. Or there were some secondary explosions from debris. Either way, there is clear damage done should the footage be legitimate.

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[–] a_party_german@hexbear.net 64 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Anyone remember Hex Atlas?

https://hexbear.net/post/2124249

It was a thing in this forum... about 8 months ago.

yes-honey-left

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[–] anaesidemus@hexbear.net 64 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

Very cool photo from the latest eruption in Iceland

Lava flowing over the Blue Lagoon parking lot | RÚV – Ragnar Visage

fuck parking lots amirite?

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[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 63 points 4 weeks ago (6 children)

Can't wait for US Marines to get clapped by the Dutch Army as they try to invade The Hague

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[–] mkultrawide@hexbear.net 63 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Seeing rumors that, in the wake of Dr. Oz being appointed to run CMS, Maury Povich will be appointed to run the Administration for Children and Families.

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[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 63 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (9 children)

Putin statement on the strike just dropped, can’t verify rn, but this is a more Russian-adjacent tgram than I usually follow

spoiler

🇷🇺Summary of Putin speach 🇷🇺

⚪️Western long-range weapons were used on Russian territory, Putin said.

⚪️The enemy's targets were not achieved after the strikes.

⚪️Russian military used the latest Russian medium-range system "Oreshnik" on November 21

⚪️The Russian strike targeted a military-industrial facility in Dnepropetrovsk, the target was successfully hit

⚪️Russia strikes Yuzhmash with non-nuclear hypersonic ballistic missile

⚪️Existing missile defense systems, including American elements in Europe, will not be able to intercept missiles like Oreshnik

⚪️The latest Russian missiles attack targets at a speed of 2-3 km per second, existing enemy missile defense systems do not intercept them

⚪️He said that civilians would be notified in advance of the use of Oreshnik.

⚪️ We have entered a Global war.

⚪️Use Of Western Long-Range Weapons Is Impossible Without 'Direct Involvement' Of Military Operators From The Manufacturing Countries

⚪️President Putin Issues Warning To The West: 'We Will Act Decisively In Cases Of Escalation'

⚪️Russian President Putin Confirms 'Operational Test' Of Novel Intermediate-Range Missile With a Non-Nuclear Payload

⚪️Putin: US Made A Mistake By Destroying Missile Treaty In 2019

✨@WarCabinet

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 63 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Trump’s Mass Deportation Plan to Include Military Forces and National Emergency Declaration - Telesur English

Article

The president-elect’s approach raises questions about the implications of utilizing military personnel in several activities, particularly in the context of immigration enforcement.

In a significant development regarding immigration policy, President-elect Donald Trump confirmed on Monday that his controversial plan for mass deportations of undocumented immigrants will involve a national emergency declaration and the mobilization of military resources. This announcement has sparked intense debate and concern among various sectors of the American public, as well as human rights organizations.

In an early-morning post on social media, Trump responded affirmatively to a conservative activist who claimed to have heard reports about the potential use of military forces in deportation efforts. Trump’s succinct reply—“TRUE!!!”—has fueled speculation about the extent of his administration’s plans to address illegal immigration, a central theme of his campaign.

The president-elect’s approach raises questions about the implications of utilizing military personnel in domestic law enforcement activities, particularly in the context of immigration enforcement. As Trump prepares to take office, he is also focusing on his Cabinet selections, with more announcements expected in the coming days. His earlier choices have faced significant scrutiny and backlash.

The prospect of deploying military forces for mass deportations has alarmed many advocates for immigrant rights, who argue that such actions could lead to widespread fear and instability within communities. They contend that using the military in this capacity could violate civil liberties and undermine the rule of law. Additionally, there are concerns about the potential for increased tensions between immigrant communities and law enforcement agencies.

As the nation grapples with these developments, it remains to be seen how Trump’s administration will navigate the complex landscape of immigration policy and what impact these decisions will have on millions of undocumented immigrants living in the United States.

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[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 63 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

PROJECTION OF RESULTS URUGUAY PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

Yamandu Orsi/ Frente Amplio/Broad Front (Leftist, Socdem, Democratic Socialist) - 50.1%

Álvaro Delgado/ National Party/Republican Coalition (Conservative, Neoliberal) - 45.7%

Blank/Null 4.3%

Source: Citizen Perception Plant, with polling station projection data

20:30. Projections show Yamandú Orsi as winner. The Frente Amplio headquarters reacted euphorically when the clock struck 20.30 and the projections marked an irreversible victory with 49.5% for Yamandú Orsi, against 45.9% for the coalition candidate Álvaro Delgado. - La Nacion

Good to see the leftist back in power in Uruguay. This will futher isolate Argentina, and Uruguay will have much better relations with Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Venezuela and Brazil. The leftists were really smart, the two most popular candidates decided to run in a unified ticket.

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[–] plinky@hexbear.net 61 points 4 weeks ago (13 children)

spd will run with scholtz i-cant literally every single party is shit, real euro vibes

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