After convincing President Biden to pardon his son Hunter, South Carolina Rep. Jim Clyburn is now calling for clemency for Donald Trump. "If we keep digging at things in the past, I'm not too sure the country will not lose its way," Clyburn tells MSNBC's Jonathan Capehart.

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[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Jim Clyburn is now calling for clemency for Donald Trump.

He is about to become president, why would he need clemency now?

[–] x87_floatingpoint@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Can Trump pardon himself once he becomes president? (Honest question, IDK how the details of anglo-burn politics work)

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 38 points 1 week ago

Can Trump pardon himself...

Years ago - a "self pardon" was only a theoretical question that a law professor could answer with smirk if not a laugh. But now with a toxic, fundie, reactionary GOP 6-3 majority on the supreme court willing to do whatever to help Trump - the answer is surely "probably" if not a straight up "yes".

[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

As far as anyone knows, it's an Air Bud rule situation

I'd fully expect it to go to the Supreme Court and be ruled constitutional 5-4 with Roberts dissenting to "preserve his legacy" or whatever knowing full well Thomas+Alito+Gorsuch+Kavanaugh+Conehead are 100% rubber stamping a "the president(R) can do whatever" decision

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 18 points 1 week ago

Apparently Nixon thought about it was advised not to

[–] fox@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Don't you need to be personally harmed to bring a suit? Who's personally harmed by Trump writing himself a pardon? The prosecutor's ego?

It is of course a stupid and useless action since clearly being a crime guy didn't stop him from assuming the presidency, and pardoning himself will just get the hogs baying in approval, so idk

[–] LanyrdSkynrd@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

It would be litigated when/if a prosecutor tried to bring charges against Trump for conduct that was self-pardoned

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

No one actually knows, no president ever tried

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

So the US can go back to being a City on a Hill and a light to world, American exceptionalism can be reaffirmed, American civil religion can be worshiped again, and blah-blah-blah-fucking-blah.

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago

Rehab of Trump before he even swears in. What skeletons are in your closet Clyburn?

[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 32 points 1 week ago

Mr Biden sir, it would simply be divisive and un-American for you to not assume the downest face, uppest ass position you can so President Hamburgler can fuck you to save the soul of our nation

trump-drenched biden-fall liberty-weeping

[–] dRLY@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

Kind of seems like a watered down version of the stupid rational after the Civil War that just let the former CSA states just act like nothing happened.

I'm sure that such weak tactics will surely lead to harmony, and the nation has nothing constructive to learn from bad shit we have done anyway. /s

[–] allthetimesivedied@hexbear.net 28 points 1 week ago

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 week ago

You have to admit, it'd be really funny.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

I thought it was a bit but he fucking did that

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5021431-james-clyburn-joe-biden-donald-trump-pardon/

And pushed for the hunter pardon...what does he have over Biden??

https://www.thedailybeast.com/white-house-press-secretary-reveals-the-top-democrat-who-influenced-bidens-hunter-pardon/

[–] 30_to_50_Feral_PAWGs@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

what does he have over Biden??

A steady supply of highly sniffable children that have been disappearing from Mount Pleasant?

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wasn't he a big part of the grand bargain that gave us Biden in the first place? (Even if we all know they wouldn't let us have Bernie, Mayo Pete also had momentum and would have had far less doddering potential)

This man is the Thomas Midgley of the Democraric Party.

[–] someone@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

Thomas Midgley

Top tier reference, I like it.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

this guy fucking sucks!

[–] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Libs: Well there is precedence... (Ford pardoning Nixon)

[–] CarmineCatboy2@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes but by virtue of having been a republican in the past Nixon is already part of the resistance. Trump will only be able to join the resistance 8 years from now when a maga communist runs on a 'kill all left handed people' platform.

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

We already have shorter average lifespans due to industrial accidents sadness

[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

carpetbomb my hellstate pls

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

I really hope they don't do this so that Trump has to do it himself. Not because of civility or anything, I just think it'd be way more pathetic both for Trump and the US political system as a whole.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

for those at home keeping score, Clyburn was the centerpiece/figurehead of the DNC maneuvering that rat fucked Bernie in the 2020 primaries after it became clear in NV he was going to run away with it... sending Chris Matthews into an emotional tailspin on live TV claiming that Bernie was going to execute journalists in Central Park.

it's insane how much as happened in those 4 years. in 2020, I would've said that's absurd, nobody wants that. today, I would vote for someone who ran exclusively on a platform of publicly executing Chris Matthews in Central Park and then go there to buy merch and overpriced hotdogs.