chapotraphouse

The illusion of Western liberal rules-based order was already shattered when the US confiscated $300 billion of Russia’s foreign reserves in 2022.

Everyone back then said “the trust of the dollar has been broken”, nobody’s going to trust the US again. That’s completely correct, and what has been unveiled instead is that US imperialism is never run on “trust” or “rules”, but on coercion.

So, guess what, nearly three years later, the foreign treasury holdings in the US has reached an all-time peak in 2024 at $8.5 trillion! Despite the blatant “stealing” of Russia’s foreign reserves, foreign countries still continue to buy US treasuries like it is the most precious asset in the world.

The dollar hegemony remains unbroken because there is no alternative to the dollar system, and as long as there is no alternative and challenge to it (to be fair, the Europeans tried, and look how the US properly disciplined the EU), everyone will have to play by the rules set by the US. There is no Soviet Union to save us this time.

it could shatter the entire Western order. Not because Canada could resist the USA, but because it would break the very foundations many people believe the Western world is built upon.

Yes. The primary argument in favor of NATO and US imperialism in the Eastern Europe is "protection". When the US becomes the invader of a Western country, this facade breaks.

Oh yus, it would be fucking wild lmao. It would certainly be a great opportunity for us, which is probably why they won't do it anyway.....

Ofc like you said, there's no way Canada is going to be able to oppose the US militarily, in the conventional way at least, but they might get some guerilla movements I hope?

Its uhhhhh getting better seemingly. This forum remains quite brainwormed but I think some of the ideological struggling of the last few months has had a good effect even if the site is still very white and American :/

It's still so far ahead of the vast majority of spaces on the English-speaking internet at least

Yeah. It's really bleakly depressing, isn't it?

What happens when the imperial partner of an imperialist power becomes a target of that imperial power? Canada only gets to do imperialism in the context of the Americans letting them and helping them do it. They don't have the independent military or financial power to do independent imperial adventures

No one is cheering when other non-socialist states have even vestigial sovereignty stripped away (at least they shouldn't be), even if they may be complicit in imperialism themselves by cooperation with imperial powers and regardless of that and the above, this isn't like an inter-imperialist conflict cuz this isn't about the division of the some parts of the world and other countries between the conflicting powers, this is about the country of Canada itself coming under the complete control of the US without any imperial-partner conditions. This is why I think the relationship of Canada to imperialism will have changed if this happens (unlikely anyway)

And cuz it's about this relationship (we both agree on this), even a reactionary force can become a revolutionary one in the context of an anti-imperialist struggle. Yeah, it's a settler-colonial country, but is there any outcome where American control doesn't make shit even worse for indigenous peoples? Every concession won will have to be won again from the Americans (without even considering the possible involvement of American military forces)

Now if an indigenous and general socialist resistance movement develops as a result of the imperialist struggle, THEN we can talk about support, critical or otherwise

This is exactly the problem, that your anti-imperialism is conditional and until any (hypothetical) national resistance struggle meets your criteria, you effectively have the position of any other imperialist chauvinist, just couched in the language of online leftism but the fireballs are American bombs I guess

Omg, I hate this argument, this is so silly. Cuz tbh, the settler Canadian government doesn't have the juice to resist this shit anyway if it gets real, probably the only good and possible outcome of any effective resistance to this hypothetical unlikely thing is an indigenous and (fuckin hopefully, if the settler-leftists will go for it I guess) general socialist resistance movement

Idk, in summary...... were the Chinese communists wrong for working with Chiang Kai-Shek in the anti-Japanese war? I'm not saying uncritical support or smth but what does anyone gain besides the imperialists from the total subjection of imperialist partners besides some kind of misanthropic glee? It only increases the amount of resources the Great Satan has under its direct control and forfeits the opportunity to work inside and with the resistance forces to gain control over the outcome and political character of those resistance forces