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I try to join about 5 minutes before because I'm terrified of being the first person or the last.

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[–] fidgeting9658@lemmings.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Depends on the context.

  • My meeting? Right on time.
  • Team meeting? On time.
  • A meeting I knew about, was on my calendar, and requires my expertise? Right on time, but a lower priority.
  • Something is broken and we're grouping up? Right on time.
  • A meeting on my calendar that I don't really need to be in? 2-3 minutes after, I'll finish what I'm currently engaged in or get to a stopping point.
  • A meeting I've been invited to with no additional context? 2-5 minutes late.
  • A meeting I was invited to with no communication/context that is before/after my normal working hours? If I remember and I'm bored.
  • A meeting I was inviting a to outside of my working hours and will start before I come online? Forget about it.

I work for a global corpo, so the last two happen quite a bit. Time is money friend.

[–] edg@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

My god I need to emulate this. I'm doing it all wrong.

[–] tomi000@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

Usually as soon as Teams notifies me of the first person starting the meeting.

How can you not always be the first when youre 5min early, wtf xD

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 6 hours ago

One to two minutes late to most meetings. I don't have time or energy for the BS of "How are you" etc. Let's get down to business.

Caveat is that if it's with a VIP I'll be exactly on time.

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

between on the dot and a few minutes afterwards depending on whos hosting. If i know they're gonna waste time jibber-jabbering at the start I give it a few minutes for that to play out. I don't care about what you did last weekend Janet.

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago

They reason they chit chat is to kill time waiting for people to join.

[–] Caboose12000@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I like joining 5+ mins early so I can just sit in silence and work while waiting for the meeting to start rather than stressing about needing to lock at the clock (j have adhd and tend to hyperfocus). plus I dont mind a little small talk, but even so no one else on my team seems to want to smalltalk so even if someone else joins early it's pretty quiet

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I’ve got so many meetings that I just join whenever it’s started by someone and go about my work until the meeting starts. If I’m not the target audience I’ll go off camera and listen if needed.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 5 hours ago

if im invited then right on time if I host then one minute early, maybe 2. usually. sometimes I have meetings that end 3mins to the next or go over which impact my ability to get to the meeting on time.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Usually at least an hour early to get a good seat.

[–] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

A minute or two before. Just enough time to ensure my setup is working.

If I'm hosting a presentation, I usually start 15 minutes early so people can connect while I'm semi-afk, with the first slide saying "Presentation will begin shortly. Pour yourself a coffee in the mean time."

Previous presentation I had multiple slides, three I think, each with an example of activities they could probably manage to do before starting.

[–] Nibodhika@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Usually exactly on time, but if I'm doing something that requires concentration and there's a chance I might lose track of time I might join 5 min earlier so that I don't miss the meeting.

Aren't you always the first 5 min before? I know that the times I joined even a minute or two early I've always been the first.

[–] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

I join at the exact time it starts. If I join earlier, I may get pulled into unnecessary small-talk platitudes that are like nails on a chalkboard to my depressed-as-shit self.

[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 9 points 9 hours ago

Five minutes earlier? God damn bro. That's coffee making time.

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I join anywhere from a few minutes before to a few minutes after, and if I don't want to chit chat I hit the little "coffee break" status and stay on mute.

FWIW I do virtual meetings daily due to 100% remote work.

[–] Shadow@lemmy.ca 55 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

If I'm running the meeting, 5 minutes. If it's large group meeting, 2 mins early. If it's 1:1, right on time.

[–] Anissem@lemmy.ml 8 points 13 hours ago

This is the way

[–] sylver_dragon@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago

I join at exactly the designated time. If you wanted me there five minutes earlier, then schedule the meeting five minutes earlier. Don't jerk me around with some expectation that I'm going to do anything other than what you asked for. Also, most of the folks I work with tend to be booked with lots of back to back meetings; so, no one is showing up early anyway. We all show up at the designated time and anyone late can catch up when they show up.

The "early is on time" mentality makes some sense for physical meetings and appointments. For virtual meetings, it just demonstrates that the person has no understanding of how technology works.

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 3 points 7 hours ago
[–] plm00@lemmy.ml 37 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I join when the meeting reminder pops up and I click "join", right on time. I don't like small talk, no point in being early.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Plus it’s not like there’s anything happening in the first couple minutes. The more people who are in the meeting the more likely someone will be late anyway.

[–] FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works 10 points 13 hours ago (3 children)

I feel like people who join really early are basically saying "Tell me you have nothing to do without telling me you have nothing to do."

[–] insaneinthemembrane@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Not quite. I join on time because I'm busy and if I don't join now I will completely forget. I just keep working until everyone else gets there and the I'll turn on my camera and mic.

[–] edg@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Probably people who were raised by military parents. My instinct is to join early as fuck, like 10 minutes. I blame my father forcing me to show up early for everything.

[–] pencil_nerd@mander.xyz 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If you're early, you're on time. If you're on time, you're late.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 4 points 10 hours ago

I had a job like that some years ago, where you were expected to arrive at 540-45 to pregame the day but not clock in until 6. Kind of unspoken, but you knew it was frowned upon if you showed up right at 6 by the death glares (they knew they couldn't mandate being early because laws, but it was just a soft expectation). Someone must have said something, because they don't do that anymore, I'm sure that went over super well for whoever said something.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Sometimes I join really early BECAUSE I have stuff to do. I lose track of time, so I'll open the reminder and keep the room running in the background while I accomplish something else, once I hear someone talking, I'll switch tabs and focus on the meeting.

[–] pencil_nerd@mander.xyz 2 points 11 hours ago

This is me, too

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[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Whenever I remember there is a meeting on. Have to keep those damned outlook 15min reminders on screen or I will forget

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Sometimes people don't include the reminder in their outlook invite. They have no right to expect me to show up at all if they do that. At the very least, they need to apologize when they send me the stupid "Are you attending my meeting?" Slack message.

I never cared about your meeting, Derek. No one cared about it. We only show up to meetings when Outlook tells us it's time. Our calendars are just endless strings of soul-sucking meetings no one wants to be on, and I will never check mine pre-emptively. I accept everything I'm invited to, Derek. Everything. We all do. Remember the fucking reminder, Derek.

[–] UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 hours ago

Exactly on point, because there's always people early or late. This way I neither have to start it nor be embarresed to be the last.

Also:

A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to

[–] mosiacmango@lemm.ee 16 points 13 hours ago

On time, even when presenting. Starting early makes other people feel obligated to join early, so I don't do it. No reason to extend the meeting longer than the listed time.

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 7 points 11 hours ago

My first meeting working in a fully-remote job, I joined a Teams meeting with the whole team (~8 people) 5 minutes early. I wasn't the host, of course.

People were (invisibly) giving me the side eye.

I soon learned that starting the meeting makes a popup appear on everyone's screen saying that the meeting started...and also that a lot of people regularly have back-to-back meetings and can't leave early. (This was mid-pandemic, shortly before it became the norm to end meetings before the hour)

After that, I started joining all virtual meetings either second (by clicking the pop-up that someone else started it), or before XX:01 (or before 1 minute after the meeting time).

In-person, I'll still show up to the meeting room 5 minutes early, or 15 if it's a slow day. But do that too often and people think you're useless, lol

I like arriving early for small talk, instead of having the rushed small talk when the meeting is "supposed" to begin.

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 13 hours ago

Usually anywhere from 2 to 5min before because my stupid ass laptop has a 50% chance of just forgetting how audio devices work and I have to test them every time.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago
[–] MithrandirDuhGrey@lemm.ee 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

“A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives precisely when he means to”

[–] GreyShuck@feddit.uk 9 points 13 hours ago

In real life meeting most of the value is in the informal side chats that you have just before or just after, in my experience. Unfortunately that basically doesn't happen in virtual meetings, so I join dead on time, or a minute or two in for larger ones.

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

As late as possible, if I'm actually needed, then I join a minute later to not have to pretend with bs small talk

[–] tyler@programming.dev 7 points 13 hours ago

1-5 minutes late

[–] MoonlightFox@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

I just join whenever someone else joins or about a minute or two before it starts. Or whenever, doesn't matter as long as I am not late. The main point for me is not being late, so that I respect other peoples time. If I am more than two minutes late, I apologize most of the time.

Small talk isn't that hard. Might feel a bit unnatural until you get used to having it. But is that tiny awkwardness an actual issue, or something you just should ideally get used to?

How are you doing? What's going on with x-project/your work? Looking forward to the weekend/had a good weekend? Watched any good shows lately? Have any pets?

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 6 points 13 hours ago

Join on time to virtual meetings. If you are hosting or setting up a room, then you can join a bit early. If it's a large meeting like a company or division wide one maybe even join a minute late.

Waiting around on an empty zoom is a massive waste of time.

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

When I served in the military, my first supervisor taught me a valuable lesson: "15 minutes early, or you're late." I actually got in trouble with her if I was less than 15 minutes early to any meeting, appointment, or event.

Or even arriving to work. We worked in an IT field, so our office had a large row of server racks along one wall. Her desk sat facing the door, but next to the GPS server that kept accurate time for all our computers on the military base. It had a giant digital clock on the front of the server. Every day when I walked into work, she would look up at me, then turn and look at that clock. If I was even 10 seconds late (to the 15-minute rule), I got in trouble with her. I was never late to work though, because she ensured I was always there earlier than my official shift start time.

Being 15 minutes early to everything has changed my life. If I'm running behind, I have a quarter hour window to get myself back on track. If I arrive 15 minutes early, I have plenty of time to get myself set up and situated. Or just time to sit and clear out some other pending tasks while I wait for a thing to start (check phone notifications, clear out emails, etc.).

When it comes to virtual meetings, I like to join 15 minutes early, then mute myself and turn off my camera. Then I can sit at my computer and knock out some other tasks while I'm waiting for the meeting to start. That buffer gives me time to mentally switch into meeting mode while also giving me time to be productive beforehand. And no one is waiting for me to show up, so if the meeting is ever running late, it's never my fault.

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

I hope your workplace doesn't use Teams. Everyone in that meeting will get a notification that you already started that meeting 15 minutes early.

For everything else other than arriving 15 min early at work, I agree. Your boss has no right to ask you to come earlier than your agreed time. If I had a boss like that I would make sure to leave 15 minutes earlier, since obviously I should be home 15 minutes earlier too!

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

We set up Teams during the pandemic (because Zoom was being a bitch about the govt not paying to use their full suite). We already used a bunch of other Microsoft products, so it was easy to get a contract for Teams integration too. I don't remember Teams giving people a notification when you joined though, just the meeting host. But I've also been retired for nearly 3 years now, so I have no idea how Teams has changed recently.

Your boss has no right to ask you to come earlier than your agreed time.

In the military, they have every right.

You see, when you join the military, you sign a contract for 4-6 years of service. The day that contract begins, you start your first shift and it doesn't technically end until your contract expires, several years later. You're on shift 24/7/365 until your contract is up. So your boss can demand you work any shift or come in at any time, day or night, and you just have to do it. Even if it's outside of your normally scheduled work hours.

There are regulations that outline "regular passes," which is time off granted daily because you're human and can't literally work 24/7. A regular pass allows you to go home, eat, sleep, and be refreshed for the next day. I don't know if the federal regs have changed in the last handful of years, but the last time I looked them up, you couldn't work more than 17 hours straight before you were required to take a minimum 8 hours off to rest. Most shifts are typically 8-12 hours long, so hopefully you don't get stuck working a 17-hour shift anytime soon.

The whole point of this is that military people need to be ready to respond to war, no matter when it strikes. You don't work a regular day shift, then argue about extra hours or overtime pay when shit hits the fan. You just grab your bugout bag and go. And yes, we don't get overtime pay because again - we're always on shift.

We do get lots of time off, though. From the day you join, you start earning 2.5 days off for every month you serve, which adds up to 30 days off per year. You can carry over something like 60 days off every year too. It was pretty nice. In my early service days, I would save up a whole month of time off and then take it all at once to go hang out with my friends and family back home.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

If it’s a customer meeting I’ll join 30 seconds early. If it’s an all hands or has big wigs in it then I’ll join 10 seconds early. Smaller internal meetings I can be 10-300 seconds late.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

If it is at work, then as exactly as my Outlook displays that Calendar message. Everybody does that, and within less than 30 seconds all are there.

If it is just among friends, then 3-5 minutes earlier, because the tech is somewhat different each time, and I do not want to make people wait for me.

[–] rouxdoo@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

I join exactly at start time, down to the second. Once everyone has been counted or noticed and the droning idiot starts presenting I bug right TF out. Nothing will happen that matters because its a freakin' meeting - if something important was going on it would be an email.

[–] Norin@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

It depends.

I’m one of the few people still teaching on Zoom. Turns out it’s a good delivery method for some students at community colleges (like if you have young children at home, etc.)

If I’m teaching, I show up 15 minutes early.

If I’m just a participant, I show up pretty much right on time, then I quietly judge whoever is running the meeting because most calls are run poorly.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 12 hours ago

Maybe ten seconds before of after the start time. Depends if I was working on something or forgot about it. If the meeting starts at 8am, then whenever I get to the office a few minutes after 8am (don’t schedule meetings first thing if you want me to be there when they start). If it was on one of my wfh days, that’d be different.

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