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[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 45 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Tepid take but american "Christianity" is anything but. They completely disregard the teaching of JC and are literally heretical in their beliefs. It's the worship of Mammon and the American settler project.

I'm sure there are still some people who live by Jesus's teachings (love thy neighbor as yourself, judge no lest you be judged, compassion for the downtrodden, acceptance of those ostracized by society, beating bankers with a whip, etc) but mainstream "christianity" in America needs a seperate term. Americanity? Americanism?

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

A lot of Burgerlander "Christians" don't even know let alone believe in the harrowing of Hell, which is a core Christian doctrine. Burgerlander "Christianity" doesn't offer a good answer why Jesus had to die on the cross (why did Jesus had to die for our sins and not just say "psych" before ascending to heaven as a final dab against the Pharisees and Romans?) while the harrowing of Hell completely explains why: Jesus had to die so he could go to Sheol, where everybody including all the Old Testament prophets like Moses were stuck in. The idea is that Jesus fooled Satan into thinking that since Jesus can feel pain and even die, he'll also go to Sheol like the other prophets where he had to submit to Satan. The Saturday between Good Friday and Easter Sunday is Jesus beating the shit out of Satan and freeing everyone in Sheol. That is the real reason why Jesus had to die on the cross.

Holy Saturday is just commemorating when Jesus descended to Sheol and ripped and teared the demons like Doomguy.

[–] Cammy@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

I never knew this. Holy shit. I was raised as a US Christian and one of the reasons I became an atheist was because everyone made Jesus sound indifferent to those suffering in hell.

I distinctly asked a leader why, if only people who died after Jesus' crucifixion are saved, the people who came before and those ignorant of Jesus have to suffer hell.

The answer I got was basically 'thems the breaks lol'

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

I seriously didn't learn about the Harrowing until I was in my late 20s, despite being raised in the church and later studying a lot of art history (how there aren't more Renaissance paintings of the Harrowing is beyond me. Shit's metal as fuck). It doesn't help Christians' understanding of Hell is largely based on fanfic, specifically Dante's Inferno.

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

Somehow I'm not surprised that burgerland "christians" (Ameretics? I seriously need a term for these ghouls) don't know basic theology. If burgerlanders are willing to file into corporate mega-churches and watch some millionaire preach Calvinism-but-worse to them before they hop into their private jet (it's for missionary work I swear!) they are truly lost.

If Mary and Joseph were looking for a place to stay they would be hard pressed to find a church in America that would help them. Most would call the cops on those vagrants

[–] Yeat@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

Can’t believe I’ve never heard of the harrowing until now

[–] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Amerussy.

Wait. What were we doing?

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

Theres no hate like christian love.

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[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 49 points 1 day ago

sin of empathy

Real psychopathic shit. Absolute fucking scum.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 52 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I haven't really looked for a full transcript of the sermon, but this is the reported thing she said on her wiki:

"Millions have put their trust in you. And as you told the nation yesterday, you have felt the providential hand of a loving God. In the name of our God, I ask you to have mercy on the people in our country who are scared now."

if this is legit what has them furious, it's so absurdly predictable. there is nothing on this earth that conservative Christendom hates more than being told by a spiritual leader with limited temporal power to be more compassionate and have mercy on the weak during their political triumphs.

a caricature of the devil could show up and start eating babies on main street, and they would ignore it to run a 5 mile obstacle course just for the opportunity to kick an unhoused, unwed mother in the face for making eye contact.

imagine being so weak and fragile in your victory that an appeal to mercy for the powerless sends you and your camp into a rage spiral.

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

:a-guy: The Council of Nicaea and its consequences have been a disaster for the Christian religion. They have greatly increased the number of Christians who live in “advanced” countries, but they have destabilized society, have made life unfulfilling, have subjected human beings to indignities, have led to widespread psychological suffering (in the Third World to physical suffering as well) and have inflicted severe damage on the natural world.

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[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 73 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You guys got your Christianity mixed up with Warhammer 40,000

[–] fwdbias@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

What the actual f?!?!? Is this real? My father was a deacon at our church I spent the first 18 years of my life almost as much at church as at school and I'm pretty sure empathy was never called a sin.

Edit: alright I went to the author he sites and then the article the author wrote and basically as usual with these evangelicals they site old testament only verses where you're supposed to stone people for doing certain things. They then use this for justifying (along with a large dose of misogyny) their idea that you shouldn't have empathy for anyone who has (in their eyes) sinned. These people are absolute psychopaths.

[–] marxisthayaca@hexbear.net 22 points 1 day ago

Lmao what is the new covenant, stupid shitheads.

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[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 40 points 1 day ago (3 children)

wow this is just like warhammer fourty thousand video game

soypoint-1 soypoint-2

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Said it before and I’ll say it again. Fascists view the world as theatre and will gladly fill the role as villain. I’m sure if you press them they’ll even call themselves villains.

[–] Cammy@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

They see being 'vilified' as a sign of their righteousness in a wicked world. They never have to reflect.

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[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 37 points 1 day ago

have you ever touched a bible or do they instantly combust when you try?

che-smile

[–] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

lol doesn’t Trump have most of the qualities described in the Antichrist?

Just further proof that these people cannot read even if it’s their own religion

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 42 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They definitely do not expect the antichrist to be a white dude.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 33 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If the antichrist were brown and queer in a movie people would be all

you-hear-about-video-games look at this woke shit!!

IN FACT remember all that anger that Lil Nas X inspired with that video where he gives the devil a lap dance?

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[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Idk, I feel like a lot of them would expect anyone with an important biblical role to play to be a white dude even if it's an evil one, everyone else can at best be background characters.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 28 points 1 day ago

Well I remember when Benedict XVI stepped down and several celebrity cardinals were in the spotlight as potential successors, a lot of racists were talking about how one of the Black cardinals was the antichrist.

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[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

An awfully convenient god they got there.

That god asks nothing of them and gives them permission to be themselves, as lazy, arrogant, greedy, and malevolent as they want but since they’re heterosexual and white they’re the good guys.

At least 4chan will admit they’re just evil and are simply acting on their inherent evil nature, but I’m sure they’ll give up the ghost that they’re evil soon enough.

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 57 points 1 day ago (3 children)

is this just the perversion of prosperity gospel?

God wants you to be rich and hateful.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 42 points 1 day ago (2 children)

It's not a perversion of it. Prosperity gospel is already fucked up as is.

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[–] ComRed2@hexbear.net 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Their "god" is a genocidal maniac. So this checks out.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago

Was going to say most anglo Christians are just genocidal monsters anyway so this tracks.

[–] Sebrof@hexbear.net 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We love the antichrist, don't we folks.

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[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not only some wild-ass takes that make any good old-fashioned Christian heretic go jesse-wtf right there, as expected from some dipshit from the state of cults and crackers, but pay close attention to the choice of gendered words.

Correction, he's cranking out over some prelate of the Church of England named Mariann. Firstly, prelate is a pretty neat title it reminds me of star craft. Secondly this all apparently has to do with this lady kicking the Trump-Hive like a few days ago over preaching at him in the middle of her sermon (he was literally there and had to get preached at, that's silly as fuck lmao) to not be a monster, to which trump brands her a “Radical Left hard line Trump hater.”

Eh she's cool in my book.

It's so funny because she asked for mercy for the meek. Didn't give an opinion about him - I don't even think she criticized him. If memory serves she ASKED for MERCY. The spin machine is so mechanical and devoid of substance.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"I FUCKING LOVE THE DEMIURGE!!!!"

so-true

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[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Western christians (especially the evangelical nutjobs) are bloodthirsty maniacs that also exported their bullshit of hate/bigotry/destruction through "missionary work" for one so I can't say this is surprising.

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[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Here's possibly related context about Baptist infighting on whether empathy is a sin:

https://baptistnews.com/article/have-you-heard-the-one-about-empathy-being-a-sin/

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 55 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Was asking about this context in the general mega as I’ve seen a lot of right wing weirdos froth at the mouth at the mention of empathy. Guess it makes some more sense now.

To me it makes about as much sense as the people who pretend that Jesus was just talking about extended family when he said love thy neighbour even though he goes on to explain that it includes disliked foreign people in the parable of the Good Samaritan.

[–] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My favorite is when they quote “I came not to bring peace, but a sword” to justify violence and militarism.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Lol

I guess that one is probably one of the most creatively interpreted pieces of the Gospel, right? Couldn't possibly just be about how all the radical stuff Jesus was asking followers to do was gonna lead to conflict, nah it's about killing brown people.

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[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, so they're not even hiding that fact that their doctrine is psycopathy

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

Yoooo they’re deranged

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[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 39 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Empathy is the prophet killer.

Edit:

it's a double entendre.

Both empathy of which the prophet (i.e. this religious figure) preaches, and profits as in what porky-happy preaches the board room

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[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

When you're definitely not going to arrive at the gates of Jannah.

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Moving words. Hopefully he'll understand when I feel no empathy for him and his ilk when they're all burning in hellche-smile

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 29 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Chapo_is_Red@hexbear.net 47 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

If you mean the woman in the pic, she's Mariann Budde, a member of the clergy of the Episcopal Church and Bishop of their Washington diocese. I believe she said critical hings about Trump's policies during a service.

If you mean the person railing against empathy, I have no idea

[–] NuraShiny@hexbear.net 31 points 1 day ago

I meant the woman in the picture, thank you.

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