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Guy who wants everybody's needs met so he can happily fuck off with a clean conscience and live in the mountains and never talk to anyone.

In a society that rewards greed and punishes empathy while grinding everyone into abject alienation from their labor, from their communities, from each other, and from themselves, it's no surprise that so many people get molded into self-serving, willfully ignorant, insufferable pricks. It's a feature of a capitalist society, not a bug. Capitalism cultivates and nurtures the worst aspects of human nature while trying to snuff out or at best twist the good and positive traits of our social species. There's nothing wrong with hating the innumerable shitty people who have adapted to this mode of production by becoming shit people, so long as you don't ever think they represent the "inherent" state of humanity or lead you to hate humanity as a whole. Don't let that rational, understandable hatred of people as they are now, adapted under capitalism, dissuade you from seeing the beautiful potential for a loving, healthy humanity as it would be when adapted to communism.

I mean, it's the brainworms, right? The whole point of materialism is that our environment shapes us, and right now that means the majority of the US is hyper individualist, neoliberal, and various forms of bigots.

Tbh as much as the current administration makes me think the US is on its last legs, the propaganda does run really deep. I kinda think we need a massive cultural values shift before we can start making progress - from a revolutionary or electoral perspective.

I think in practical terms that means we need to practice solidarity and otherwise combat neoliberal values. Teach ourselves and those around us that we can rely upon each other and things will just work out that way. That working towards group interests instead of personal interests is more effective. Stuff like that.

Although admittedly, saying that out loud it does kinda sound idealist. That we need to change minds and then the revolution will happen. Idk

I don’t think it’s a paradox. Hexbear gets weirdly utopian. Our revolution is about making the worst instincts and behaviours economically and politically irrelevant. There will still be horrible people in our everyday lives. There will still be abuses but the power balance will be gone.

I hate people in the sense that I don't want to deal with them, but I hope they live happy, fulfilling lives....elsewhere.

it's not just how other people are under capitalism, but what capitalism does to our brains too. when all of our energy and wellbeing are sapped by the perils of daily life, that too can make us antisocial. and that's in addition to capitalism encouraging as many people as possible to be real assholes and grinding them into a paste.

If socialism triumphs humanity will persist, it just won't be the human beings of today, the process of transitioning to socialism will change people over generations to be better. - His Holiness St. Bhagavan Shree Matt Christman (SAW)

It's not a paradox for me, I don't like and I don't want to exist around selfish, racist, money grubbers

Capitalism is literally geared toward producing those kinds of people and fostering their delusions to our detriment

I don't want to live in a world where parasites like that are elevated and given the reins of life and death

capitalistic culture reproduces its horrific characteristic inside its population. Revolution will change how people act.

People​ are especially shitty in settler countries, though. Not that you're doing anything wrong, but there are better humans than the ones you're seeing daily.

*walks up to you at the mall and sprays you with lizzybeth taylor's Hot Honey Mist* I GAVE YOU A FREE SAMPLE WHY AREN'T YOU BUYING

I don't hate people so much as I prefer trees and animals to people.

I enjoy my chosen people, but even then, I don't have unlimited tolerance for social interaction. I still require quiet and people free space.

I'm the kind of person who enjoys living within 10 miles or so of a big enough sized town that we have robust services and amenities, but small enough that 10 miles feels sufficiently isolated that it's possible for me to spend a day seeing only flora and fauna.

I'm aware that I'm extremely inefficient in that way, but being human is rarely about efficiency.

I assume this applies to owls as well.

Some of my volunteering essentially puts me on a commune for 3-4 weeks, and holy fuck does leaving capitalism's environment make everything better. I can easily tolerate liberals without screaming at them for the entire time because I'm not worrying about every little necessity - commuting, shopping, cooking - on an individual level, with everyone just sharing the load instead.

Euros don’t deserve communism

I work in retail and while I like to think I think pretty highly of humanity I sometimes wonder if I'm turning into a misanthrope. I think my annoyances more have to do with the pace and pay of work under capitalism rather than just hating customers (but I will shit talk customers for stupid questions in the break room).

I mean... some people are just terrible

And I have to imagine that even with their needs met and their lives in order, they'd probably still be contemptable

But that doesn't mean that I want them to suffer or die

I just want them to leave me the fuck alone once I'm done dragging them kicking and screaming into a better future

Under socialism, you will be freee to hate people as equals

I feel like I'm in a similar position that I explain by saying "Misanthropy is understandable, but it's still not right."

Same. My ideal commune involves everyone living in a shipping crates with an attached kitchen and bathroom. Gotta be able to retreat if social stuff becomes too much

Be me, bitter misanthrope

hate this culture that rewards losers and trolls

want to spite them

notice the worms seem to enjoy the imperial boomerang.

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Join movement to make sure they get better wages, safer working conditions, cleaner air, and foster a culture that values one thing they hate the most: being excellent to each other.

Watch as their pathetic culture is shattered when up against changing material conditions.

mwa ha ha, take that sheeple.

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Even Shigaraki would shudder at the horrible lows my misanthropy would take me.

I found that in people who seem to be misanthropic, there is another paradox where they long to be with people or rather a single person with who they can have a deep relationship with. Im not sure if there is truly any human being out there that wants to be completely absent of relationships.

If there are, then what do they value in life? Do they believe in any meaning? What makes them get out of bed?