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[–] rozodru@lemmy.world 15 points 11 hours ago

you know if the parent of any one child that has died in a school shooting was a billionaire said school shooters would also be looking at the death penalty.

who am I kidding, Billionaires don't send their kids to public schools.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 29 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

He's also eligible for Jury Nullification. Remember, if jury selection(or anyone really) asks you what Jury Nullification is, you do not.

[–] DiaDeLosMuertos@aussie.zone 5 points 12 hours ago

That's the clause whereby it takes just one person too.....ohhhhhhh. I uuurm, oh look a carrot.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 9 points 13 hours ago

I've never heard of it.

[–] frenchfryenjoyer@lemmings.world 83 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

So they believe that a person should die for killing a CEO, one person, but the CEO who created an AI specifically to deny claims resulting in many painful deaths didn't? suuuure. this totally isn't a revealing kneejerk reaction from elites pissing their pants

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 50 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Social murder is not illegal because the billionaires make the laws.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 15 points 14 hours ago

Social murder is how wealth is made...

Slavery is another route.

Owner class knows this and they known peasants would revolution if critical mass understood it too

[–] sobchak@programming.dev 23 points 16 hours ago (3 children)

Kind of a nitpick, but the CEO wasn't a billionaire. It's also kind of an important distinction, because it's not necessarily the wealth that's the main problem, but how the owner class/bourgeoisie obtain their wealth/income. A slumlord worth less than a million is arguably as morally wrong as a Blackstone CEO (one obviously has more wealth/power/impact though). The evidence of owner class solidarity and government capture/corruption is also important. Rashid, being a politician, is likely trying to not alienate is millionaire donors.

[–] BarneyPiccolo 13 points 12 hours ago

He may not have been a Billionaire - YET - but at his age, he certainly saw himself on that track. He was already ordering horrific policies on behalf of increased profit, so he would look good to his bosses and move up the ladder. He was already an active corporate serial killer, murdering people to advance his career and net worth. Eventually, if he sacrificed enough customers on the altar of profit, he would be rewarded with a Billionaireship.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Kind of a nitpick, but the CEO wasn’t a billionaire.

When you're earning $26M/year, it's just a matter of time.

A slumlord worth less than a million is arguably as morally wrong as a Blackstone CEO

From a very black-and-white "Bad thing is bad" perspective, sure. But there's a hierarchy of incentives and profits you're overlooking. The slumlord very likely carries their properties on some amount of credit, which means they're collecting rents on behalf of their lender. This lender, in turn, borrows money to increase their leverage and pays rents to a wealthier and more central lending authority. Eventually, the debts for all these loans get traced back to the major banks and other credit brokers, insurers, and private equity firms.

In a feudal sense, the slumlord is merely a plantation overseer and enforcer. The Blackstone CEO is the High Lord, standing on the backs of dozens of lesser aristocrats, who are themselves extracting wealth from their own plantation holdings, which all run thanks to legions of these slumlords going door to door every month to pound the rent out of their tenants.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

When you're earning $26M/year, it's just a matter of time.

It still takes 40 years.

[–] BarneyPiccolo 4 points 12 hours ago

He was making that much now, but his salary would have increased steadily, as his immoral policies brought in more profit by murdering their customers. He would have reached Billionaire status far quicker than 40 years.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

The S&P doubled in the last five years and more than tripled in the last ten. Pocket $20M of that $26M, at $1.6M/mo, while earning around 15% yoy ROI and you're looking at $400M inside a decade.

Compound interest is propelling already-rich people into the stratosphere.

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

15% yoy is too generous. S&P has averaged 10% p.a. over the past 100 years.

But yes, compound interest brings the billion target ($20M pocketed @ 10%) down from 40 to 18.8 years.

But remember, the average CEO tenure is about 7.5 years.

Getting to a billion through a salary only is very difficult.

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[–] bold_atlas@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

He had enough to access the stock market's infinite money glitch if he wanted to.

Spiritually he was a billionaire.

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[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 7 points 14 hours ago

You are correct here...

That CEO was an officer of the oligarchy, he was not an oligarch himself.

The reaction from the oligarchy is to show of force to ensure that officers stays calm and keep fucking us harder

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 19 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Oh, I'm sure he won't become a martyr. These idiots are so scared and certain this is the best way forward, they can't imagine the consequences.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, I’m sure he won’t become a martyr.

I mean, its not even clear if he was the guy who pulled the trigger. Less a martyr than a scapegoat, as far as we can tell.

they can’t imagine the consequences.

The bitter truth is that we've got one dead CEO in 2025 and tens of thousands of dead UHC customers. This is math that the shareholders can live with, so long as it guarantees them continued economic growth into the next decade. CEOs are, after all, a dime a dozen. Hell, we're nearing a point at which they can be replaced with AI.

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 11 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

It would be a shame if his execution caused copycats.

[–] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If Americans had the balls to copycat this, they would have done so months ago, healthcare would have been reformed as a result or at least health insurance companies would be unable to find anyone willing to be CEO for them.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 21 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Truly regressive to the age of tyrants and kings. Piss off the wrong rich guy and off with your head.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It has always been thus. It's just accelerating now.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 16 hours ago

We briefly had an age where, with some effort, the masses could keep the powerful in check. As you say…it’s disappearing now.

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

It's more like a pendulum that has been picking up speed in accordance to the power individuals (or groups of elites) can own.

E.g. a Roman emperor might've had absolute power in his day, but he still couldn't fuck it up for the whole planet at once, for example. Now, not so much, although we've had better periods in between.

[–] Rooty@lemmy.world 46 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

The Billionaire class is so assured in its grasp on power that they're willing to create martyrs. Let's see how that turns out

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Something tells me that their being out of touch with the lay peoples is about to have some unforeseen consequences for them. In the past the wealthy tried to keep a finger on the pulse as it were to know when to throw parades and shit to keep the peasantry happy. How long has it been since we've been given ANYTHING from the owners of capital? They really forgot how to maintain their power. Stupid as fuck NEW MONEY lmao

[–] BarneyPiccolo 5 points 12 hours ago

They are getting more and more out of touch, and they have no idea it's happening.

We're seeing signs of it every day. A Healthcare CEO is murdered, and the alleged murderer has the majority of the population on his side. A Democratic Socialist wins the NYC mayoral primary by a wide margin, and even his own party disparages him. Jobs are going unfilled because people are refusing to work for minimal wages, while corporations and the government sneer that they are lazy gamers. The streets are filling with enormous crowds of protesters, and their numbers grow with each demonstration.

The Revolution is coming, and all of us are it know it, but the Sociopathic Oligarchs, and their enslaved politicians have no idea. They still think they are in charge, but it is only the ingrained politeness of the American citizenry that has kept their blood from flowing in the gutters.

Once the American people lose their patience with the wealthy and their political slaves, it is going to get very, very ugly for the MAGA Nazis and their enablers (including weak, simpering, spineless Democrats like Chuck Schumer).

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

We had a shitty parade a couple months ago

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 88 points 1 day ago (13 children)

Yeah if I were on that jury, it would be jury nullification all the way. Can't have the government killing a guy for political reasons, and that's what this is.

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