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For the first time in my life I had to call some cops, to ask them to step and issue a noise violation. It is nearly 11pm, my family had received the most terrible news that day, and I was on hour 60 of being awake. After what has been the absolute most insane emotional, physical and mental rollercoaster of my life, I finally was drifting into sweet slumber the music began. I tried to fall asleep despite it, but it was no use. This neighbor has been loud before and most times I can ignore it, and sleep through, but this insomnia has a grip on me that I have seen in years.

I went down and knocked on his door and was meet with "WHY YOU POUNDING ON MY Door and man aggressive stepping out. I asked him please I have not slept in two days and I cannot sleep with you music on. He said it sound like I had a personal problem and he slammed he door in my face. The music was turned up instead of down, and Hexbear... I cracked. I am a transwoman living alone, I have been on HRT long enough that my muscle density is gone. I have low ciswoman levels of estrogen in my blood. And this man has menaced me before pounding on my door to accuse me of calling the cops on them on a previous time they were loud, when I had not. They said that I had better not EVER call the cops on him

I had to call 911 and ask them to issue a sound violation. I talked to the cops to give a statement, because frankly, this man scares me. He 6 foot something, towers above my 5"9' seems to always a baclava, when not in his home and is ripped.

And now adrenal is pumping through me and I may be to scared to sleep. I don't want the hallucinations Hexbear, these insomnia waking nightmares again.

Oh god.

Edit: I got like 4 hours of sleep. It's not enough, but it's something.

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[–] KnilAdlez@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

While the cops suck, of course, they are the only tool that is allowed to us to deal with situations like this. Don't feel bad for calling them when it was the only option you had left. Try to get some sleep, and if you can't, see if you can stay with a friend for a night or two.

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

We want to replace the police with better institutions, but while those institutions don't exist, you work with what you got. You are not a bad person for doing what you have to to get a basic biological need.

Scary situation with no 100% wins for you either way. Take care.

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

what's the alternative? shoot him?

I 2nd this...

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Don't fret, comrade. A simple noise complaint call to the cops is nothing to worry about. Sounds like your neighbour is a wanker anyway.

I, too, have had to call the cops on my neighbour (although he was actually violent and a threat to everyone around him) - I mean, you don't really have anyone else to call, right?

Not your fault. Relax. and try to get some sleep Care-Comrade

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My rule for calling the cops is “Will adding an armed, paranoid maniac to this situation improve things?”

And for a noise complaint when you’ve already tried to handle it yourself, the answer is unfortunately yes. It’d be much better if there was someone else that could be called to fix the situation, but the armed paranoid maniac is the only option available to you. Thats not your fault. You’re just doing your best with the options available.

[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Honestly I'd like to send lots of armed, paranoid maniacs to this guy's house.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

some cities have paid civilians to deescalate non potentially violent problems because of the fact a person with a gun could escalate the problem.

a noise complaint would likely be one of its best use cases.

Noise complaints and traffic enforcement are the big two I see where that would be so so helpful

[–] Yurt_Owl@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

No you're not a terrible person your neighbour is a terrible person.

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah. It sucks and acab etc. etc. but there have been times where I have had to call the cops.

We don't have community policing which is capable of supplanting the police force nor a police force under the dictatorship of the proletariat and, until we do, unfortunately there are going to be situations that require police intervention. That's just the nature of the grim reality that we live in today.

I'd recommend to people to use the non-emergency line in these sorts of situations - most states/countries have them, if you are reading this comment and you aren't sure if you've got one for your region you should take a quick look now to find out - and it's a good way to avoid putting additional demand on emergency services in situations that do not require an immediate response.

If your neighbour was a reasonable person then it wouldn't have needed to get to this point. But that's outside of your sphere of influence and so you shouldn't be taking on a degree of responsibility which is not commensurate with your level of control.

I mean, to your credit, you tried to resolve this politely without recourse to the cops despite previous threats from this person. Fuck em

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Maybe I'm wrong too, but I've also called the cops for noise violations. Sleep is a real need.

[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

Sounds like a chud to me, call the cops and let them fight, I feel sorry for you but definitely not sorry for them, you did the right thing. Cops are pigs but they're not the only ones out there.

[–] allthetimesivedied@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

I’m not above calling the cops on someone if they’re an absolute chode.

Also if you think you’re a bad person for that, I sometimes think about getting back at my ex-friend for basically robbing me of my self-worth by calling the cops and telling them what they do for a living (selling drugs).

[–] FreudianCafe@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You could get some Pepper spray and/or a very powerful flash light (those with a warning that they will blind u) just in case

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Any sort of high powered flashlight is really good for personal/home defence. You don't have to shell out big bucks because a decent led flashlight that is powerful enough will dazzle someone when you point it at their eyes (you can get these for about $15 if you shop around.) Sure, they might not physically hurt to stare at but if an attacker can't see without shielding their eyes and if it takes a couple of seconds before their vision returns then that's gonna put them at a major disadvantage.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Neighbor is a worthless chud.

Maybe the cops will ummm... deal with him in traditional cop fashion.

[–] reaper_cushions@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Fuck it, use the pigs for what you can use them for. If someone decides to be a massive piece of shit, they would have had it coming in a better world as well.

[–] kleeon@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

I'd literally punch this asshole if I were in your situation. Can't blame you

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

What a nightmarish situation, I'm really sorry you're having to deal with that. You did the right thing, at the right time. I hope your neighbor got the message clearly that you'll stick up for yourself by whatever means you have at your disposal.

You acted in your defense at an appropriate point in the conflict- he violently escalated tensions with you and it sounds like he's threatened you in the past. Menacing and then beating the door is a pretty good indicator that he'd be capable of carrying out an assault. His threats were increasing in intensity either as part of his personal anger freakout routine or to bully and intimidate you. I would have been very worried if you just hunkered down and let it blow over because the next boundary test could easily have pushed further.

Calling the cops was the rational and appropriate action. You couldn't stay and ignore it, you were in no state to leave and find a place to stay at short notice with your sanity hanging by a thread like that and further confrontation would have eventually led to one or both of you losing control, violence and probably the cops turning up anyway to a scene well beyond their will or ability to de-escalate safely.

But more importantly, the fact that you called them despite being aware and self-critical of doing it says to me you didn't have any other options. There was no rational way to safely deal with the situation or you would have tried it. Any other option I can see massively increases the chances that your shitty night AND your neighbors shitty night ended up defining the rest of your lives.

If you had made one of those other choices you would have raised the stakes far in excess of what should ever be necessary over what was essentially some fkn music, rudeness and ego fuckery. THAT would have been the unethical path to take. Dogmatic adherence to the letter of ideology in this case would have likely resulted in a brutally unjust outcome by any rational measure.

By bringing the cops in at a relatively peaceful juncture you've broken that feedback loop of escalation and call me optimistic, but I reckon he'll be a lot less likely to try you like that again. It's gonna be scary cuz bullies are scary, but they usually don't want to ruin their life indulging in power trip bullshit.

Good on you.

(I just realised how old this thread is. My bad- OP I hope things are going alright and that you ended up catching up on the sleep some.)