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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 162 points 2 months ago

Alienate a literal entire generation from voting for you lol, lmao.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 103 points 2 months ago
[-] Pentacat@hexbear.net 127 points 2 months ago

Outside of presiding over massive inflation, the loss of women’s right to choose, genocide of the Palestinians, the arming of Nazis in a proxy war, increasing terror at the US border, increasing warrantless surveillance on Americans who aren’t in Congress, increasing police budgets everywhere, killing free speech, and making criticism of Israel a hate crime, what mistakes can you point to that Biden has made? We’re actually lucky if you think of all the bad stuff throughout history that he hasn’t presided over.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 98 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

don't forget abandoning covid guidelines and caving to the rightwing's policies and stiffing us on our promised stimulus checks and debt forgiveness.

Oh yeah, and betraying the BLM bloc you just coopted by saying "defund the police is a rightwing idea"

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[-] CoolYori@hexbear.net 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is what I am being told by every lib on the Discord servers I am in.

EDIT: They like to repeat the gotcha of when it takes place like its some sort of master move.

[-] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Oh thank god, it won't affect the next election, the most important election of our lives. But I fear the consequences of alienating the youth for the election after, the most important election of our lives

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[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 141 points 2 months ago

Good. China should also retaliate and start forcing American companies in China to hand over ownership

[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 114 points 2 months ago

Seize the Tesla factory lmao

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[-] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 51 points 2 months ago

They already do....

Almost everything foreign in China is 51% state owned. McDonald's franchises, Costcos, Gucci stores, etc.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 93 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Those places entered into China while agreeing to those restrictions. That’s different than the US allowing foreign investment then rugpulling it and stealing the Chinese owned portion of a business after the fact.

In order to retaliate, China needs to seize or steal American capital.

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[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 41 points 2 months ago

We've gotta pump those numbers up

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[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 125 points 2 months ago
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[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 112 points 2 months ago

I feel like they've got a strong constitutional case. One BBC article I read said that 60% of their company ownership is by global hedge funds so they just plainly aren't a Chinese company. Singling them out for having dissident information through an act of congress is precisely what the 1st Amendment is supposed to protect against. With the sale supposed to happen in November at the earliest, the red scare will either fade by then or become a much larger issue they can capitalise on.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 61 points 2 months ago

The constitution means jack shit, it wouldn’t matter if it explicitly stated “TikTok shall not be banned”, the state does whatever the fuck it wants and the hardest part is coming up with the weasel words in the judgement that explains how it’s perfectly constitutional, ackshually.

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[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago

a bunch of freaks think the constitution only applies to us citizens.

i can't predict confidently whether business rights or foreign no rights will win out here.

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[-] Zvyozdochka@hexbear.net 99 points 2 months ago

Good, don't give into terrorist's extortion.

[-] StalinStan@hexbear.net 97 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Really at this point I am just impressed by how hard they are fighting against both bread and circuses

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Circus is anti-semetic because the gladiators called for a ceasefire.

[-] REEEEvolution@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They hate it when they do not have total control over both. While demanding that others should be fine with their bread and circuses. Classical preaching water and drinking wine.

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[-] shipwreck@hexbear.net 93 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is simply one of the first steps towards US-China decoupling.

The US knows that it cannot contain China, cannot stop China from technologically surpassing itself. But the US still controls the global tech industry market, and China is still distances from transitioning away an export-led economy.

That’s why the US is specifically targeting Huawei. These targets were very specifically and strategically chosen. They want Huawei to succeed in developing their native technology and architectures, so down the road the US can simply force the rest of the world to choose between Apple/Google ecosystems, or the Chinese Harmony ecosystem, citing technical incompatibility between the two (many US government agencies already have a strict requirement regarding technology use involving Chinese components).

The global tech sector has far too much invested in and have their entire operations built around the existing Apple/Google/Amazon ecosystems so it will become very painful and costly to make the switch even if a superior Chinese alternative is available. At the end of the day, if you want to earn dollars, as a business, you’d have to weigh how much you’d be willing to risk losing (especially against your competitors) when the US declares that use of native Chinese technology is no longer accepted in your business dealing with them.

This Tiktok debacle is really just setting up the legal precedences for what they actually intend to commit to in their strategic planning down the road.

To understand the landlord empire, you need to think like a landlord. Microsoft did not dominate the consumer market because they made the best products, but because they were the best at using legal means to stop their competitors from penetrating the market.

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 48 points 2 months ago

The big difference here is that if your competition can out-compete you using Chinese infrastructure, you will be forced into at least figuring out a way to dual-use it.

Ultimately, this is a Microsoft/Apple situation. It's just who will be Microsoft and who will be Apple. I think that, over time, most of the cutting edge tech will migrate over to Chinese tech, even if the rest of the world doesn't exactly. That said, Africa and Asia (outside of the colonial outposts) will mostly be in the Chinese tech sphere.

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[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 91 points 2 months ago

yeonmi-park If you don't allow the political and invsstment oligarchs control your media outlet, they will either force you to shut down or surrender to an investment oligarch.

[-] supafuzz@hexbear.net 85 points 2 months ago

the right call for sure, make it hurt politically

[-] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 79 points 2 months ago

This might be sincere, but as someone who worked in M&A in a past life, it’s pretty standard to say “I’m not interested in selling” to bluff the price up a bit.

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 66 points 2 months ago

Thing is, it's only the US that would be threatening to ban it. And if they sell, this FreedumbTok would be available in most other countries. It would create a world-class competitor overnight, exactly equivalent to their product, that would also have a gigantic competitive advantage- access to US consumers and businesses. FreedumbTok would likely eat away at TikTok in the rest of the world. They won't sell

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[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago

My understanding is that the algorithm at the core of TikTok cannot be ecported from China without the approval of Chinese regulators, and it seems pretty likely that they'll not approve a sale at gunpoint.

It also makes sense to me that they'd rather just amputate their US operations to preserve their IP and prevent an American competitor from fighting over their market share everywhere else.

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[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 47 points 2 months ago

I can't imagine there's that many suitors for this thing, it's a big bite

[-] roux@hexbear.net 72 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Does FB, Insta, Zitter, Google, MicroShit, Discord, Github, etc. all have to divest as well? No? So they can just keep harvesting our data? ok

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[-] buckykat@hexbear.net 70 points 2 months ago

Waiting for the spike in searches for VPN to dwarf all the state porn ban ones.

[-] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 69 points 2 months ago
[-] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 69 points 2 months ago

Isn’t it tiresome for the people in power to be in conflict with like 4 billion people globally at all hours of the day?

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[-] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 66 points 2 months ago
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[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 59 points 2 months ago

A masterful gambit by Mr Biden

[-] geese_feces@hexbear.net 55 points 2 months ago

They should block all US users and on the block page have an ad for a VPN service.

[-] Hestia@hexbear.net 55 points 2 months ago

The politicians are shooting themselves in the head over tiktok. xi astronaut-1 astronaut-1

[-] Des@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago
[-] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 47 points 2 months ago

The best outcome. I don’t like TikTok, but red scare forcing them to sell is bad too.

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 47 points 2 months ago

it's the best social media site.

when I post about trans issues on TikTok I'll get thousands upon thousands of likes and lots of really supportive comments. Only a couple trolls.

Post it on youtube and you get like 40 views, a bunch of dislikes, and a couple of slurs

it's the best social media site.

Hexbear put on fucking blast

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 62 points 2 months ago

We are an intellectual forum smuglord

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[-] whatup@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago

It’s gotten much worse because of American meddling. The site was intentionally suppressing videos about BLM in 2020. They also have a ´beauty’ algorithm that gives preference to white, skinny, young influencers at the expense of everybody else.

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[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 45 points 2 months ago

Incredibly based

[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 38 points 2 months ago
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[-] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago

Good move, pull out of the US and sell to "Canadians"(Americans with VPNs)

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