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[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 126 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)
[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You can probably drop the “lol” part.

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 85 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (7 children)
[–] Kadaj21@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m a millennial, i do it all the time lol

[–] bolexforsoup@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Bob_Robertson_IX@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I thought "lol" was short for "Just wanted to let you know that I'm a millennial so you can better understand where I'm coming from with this comment."

Does it have a different meaning?

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[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Project 2025 is the culmination of 50 years 'lesser evil' voting. Instead of accepting no evil, democrats tolerated right wing politics and its policies as long as it had a D next to its name.

Marginalized communities have been living with versions of P2025 all their lives. This only scares white liberals because its something that finally targets them. Democrats demanded we ignore our oppressors and vote for them and didnt have our backs. Now we wont have theirs for the mess liberals created.

[–] Psychodelic@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

You had me in the middle bit

[–] 4grams@awful.systems 4 points 5 months ago (15 children)

I can’t argue with any of that. What I’m stuck on is just what the fuck to do now and what comes next.

Can you elaborate on your thoughts? I honestly can’t see a way out except for eating another shit sandwich and hoping that incrementalism can save us once sanity returns. But fuck, we’re cooked, sanity is gone for good so I’m out of ideas and the alternative only makes it worse for everyone. I’m at a point where I’m happy to vote against my best interests but that’s kinda what I feel I’ve been doing all this time.

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[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 29 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Caught a sound bite of trump rambling again.

Did Hitler sound that dumb in his rallies?

[–] distantsounds@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hitler didn’t make it to 80. It’d be nice if trump took that note

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As evil as Hitler was... he did at least one good thing for the world.

So far, I'm not so sure Trump has done that much.

(Hitler offed himself.)

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[–] takeda@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

He was also largely dismissed as a clown, like trump in 2016, that there was no way he would win.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

As a German, his speeches are not dumb or incoherent as Trump's, but they are really that good either. Basically constantly screaming and a very weird cadence.

Messagewise, it's pretty close, though. MAGA and Deutschland über alles are not that different. Actually, making Germany as great as it's been before Versailles was kind of the entire point of the Nazi party (and of course The Jews™ were responsible for all of that ).

[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

In his time, Hitler was ridiculed for his weird looks and barely coherent speeches. It was thought he would be ineffectual and easily controlled by more seasoned politicians when he was allowed to become cancellor (he only got about 35 percent of the popular vote but managed to build a conservative coalition). To underestimate his and his party's plan to dismantle democracy, which was plainly laid out in Mein Kampf, was a grave mistake of course. More info here: https://www.annefrank.org/en/anne-frank/go-in-depth/germany-1933-democracy-dictatorship/

[–] meowMix2525@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

America first is actually another slogan of theirs so you don't even have to go that far to draw the comparison

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Hitler was described as a charismatic and compelling speaker. That’s historically how he was able to capture so much of the German audience. Only once he had a strong following did he begin attacking the BBC as “Lügenpresse” (fake news), isolating Germans from trusting in international media.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but that's how some people describe Trump. I can't fathom how one could listen to him speak without getting the impression that he's a narcissistic moron but that's how it goes I guess.

I think that begs the question of whether or not many felt that way about Hitler in 1930s Germany. I'm guessing he was well spoken enough that even those that disliked his message didn't have the same opinion of him that I do of Trump. They likely saw him as a threat and someone to fear for his ability to sway others to his cause. Trump seems successful largely in spite of himself which is odd, but again I can't see anything other than a clown with little man syndrome so maybe they are successful for largely the same reasons. They do have a lot of similarities. I just have to imagine Hitler was more cunning and less sniveling.

[–] WildPalmTree@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Maybe "begs a question" but not "begs the question".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Lots of people thought Adolf was a clown and an idiot. It didn't really stop him from doing lots of lots of damage.

Same for the Nazi Party, really. It was filled with incompetence and idiocy.

[–] LodeMike 21 points 5 months ago

There is no fascism without dictatorship.

Bet

[–] AshMan85@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] Drusas@kbin.run 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

That is downplaying the threat.

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[–] anticolonialist@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Has been for decades

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Brilliant photo illustration.

[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (5 children)

We've seen it, us who live outside of America and have had the pleasure of being invaded. Must be nice to use everyone else's land as battlefields and never having to fight one at home, and ignoring the atrocities and fascism committed by your armies on foreign soil.

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[–] RecursiveParadox@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Anyone have a non-Paywall link?

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[–] Dreizehn@kbin.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Every single Allied WWII would roll in their grave and the f'n Little Austrian Corporal would be f'n proud of the f'n MAGATs.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You’re allowed to use curse words here.

[–] maynarkh@feddit.nl 4 points 5 months ago
[–] Bobmighty@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Extremely cruel, short sighted stupidity that kills many as well as so much corruption and infighting that the US government collapses. Of course, climate change is also going to make everything start to collapse soon anyway. At least the fascist savages will burn right along with everyone else.

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