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The National Federation of Republican Assemblies (NFRA) has cited the infamous 1857 Dred Scott Supreme Court decision, which stated that enslaved people weren’t citizens, to argue that Vice President Kamala Harris is ineligible to run for president according to the Constitution.

The group also challenged the right of Vivek Ramaswamy and Nikki Haley to appear on Republican primary ballots.

The Republican group’s platform and policy document noted that “The Constitutional qualifications of Presidential eligibility” states that “No person except a natural born Citizen, shall be eligible, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President

“An originalist and strict constructionist understanding of the Constitution in the Scalia and Thomas tradition, as well as precedent-setting U.S. Supreme Court cases ... have found that a ‘Natural Born Citizen’ is defined as a person born on American soil of parents who are both citizens of the United States at the time of the child’s birth,” the document states.

The group then cites six cases including Dred Scott v Sandford. The 1857 ruling came a few years before the 1861 outbreak of the US Civil War over the issue of slavery, stating that enslaved people could not be citizens, meaning that they couldn’t expect to receive any protection from the courts or the federal government. The ruling also said that Congress did not have the power to ban slavery from a federal territory.

I thought this was some kind of op, like someone making a fake Republican org and putting out an unhinged policy paper. Citing Dred Scott is crazy, especially since it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the argument that she's not a citizen.

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[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 87 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Yes yes, let's keep going. Only those with ancestry within US borders prior to 1490 CE are eligible for the office of President.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 56 points 3 months ago

warren-snake it's her turn

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 32 points 3 months ago

It's a pretty accelerated form of Landback, but sounds great.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 73 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Hahaha holy shit, blue fascists have a Nuremberg rally and not even 3 days later the red fascists invoke slavery laws

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

When the Democrats attempt to outfascist the Republicans, the latter has no way to go but respond in kind so as not to lose their reason to exist.

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think this is what happens when you give the us-foreign-policy and pronounjak-rage emojis as the prompt for chatGPT

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago

Sounds like a dril post.

[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think the argument is that if her ancestors were slaves, then they weren't citizens, and therefore their descendants could not be citizens because those enslaved ancestors couldn't give birth to citizens and therefore on and on.

However, the civil rights act of 1866 gave all freed slaves at that time citizenship.

But more importantly, the 14th amendment to the Constitution reversed the answer to the citizenship question in Dred Scott.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

That is a pretty unbelievable reach, and even if everything they said was true would be a reason to change those rules.

Not to shill for Kamala

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

It would just be plainly ridiculous, because it would imply ALL descendants of slaves in the US are not citizens. That's just absurd. However, if this somehow went somewhere, I'd love to see libs argue with commies about how the sacred democratic institutions of this cursed country are worth anything.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 37 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I think both parties have burned out their normies by this point. It's been 8 years of normie dems and normie chuds being told they need to pretend to be activists in crisis after crisis. Most people are tired of it and wanna grill. The right has kinda lost the sauce it once had and the dems who weren't fully bratty/demure/mindful are losing interest now.that it seems Trump is running out of steam and are willing to pack up and go home too. This is a battle of very strange people and other very strange people.

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They’re battling to become one of the last leaders of a dying nation.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

If they're battling they aren't trying hard. More like playing hot potato

[–] Pentacat@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, bad word choice on my part. It’s definitely not a job anyone should want at this point, given what the bosses want.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

I'll take it. I'd be an amazing US president. I'm slightly too young and from the wrong country but I guarantee that as president I'd be assassinated within a month, but within thar months that month I'd do as much damage as possible, I'd fucking murder the secretary of defense on TV, I'd be such a cool president for s month tops.

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Birtherism 2: Electric Boogaloo

Edit: It's actually stupider than that, holy shit lol.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Your honor I invoke the oldest most prestigious law: whoever smelt it dealt it.

The prosecution rests.

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Objection, your holiness! In my closing argument I will explain the prominence of the oldest, and most sacred law in the land; finders keepers.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

In light of recent developments my client seeks to settle out of court

[–] Thallo@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

I thought this was some kind of op, like someone making a fake Republican org and putting out an unhinged policy paper.

100% my first thought

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

kill all crackers

[–] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

supreme court justice Judge Dredd

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

Citing Dred Scott is crazy, especially since it doesn't seem to have anything to do with the argument that she's not a citizen.

I think the implication is that her ancestors could not have been citizens, therefore the birthright never passed on.