I've seen an hexbear user take the maximalist "stalin and soviet union did nothing wrong" stance and get lectured by an actual soviet historian but that was on another server. Smart people don't go looking for fights online.
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You don't have to be a liberal to suggest to a comrade that "Stalin did some things wrong"
inb4 "stopped at Berlin" etcc
That wasn't the criticism. It was closer to a left-comm criticizing the Bolshevik's for betraying the revolution, ie Kronstadt etc.
Smart people don't go looking for fights online.
I feel called out.
im a big proponent of examining formats and interfaces to better understand why people decide to interact the way they do
thats why i think hexbear should host a guestbook on the hexbear.net domain but it should just be for libs and they can write a little comment about how tankies are bad and why
Endless tagline generator
Put them in a scrolling feed in the sidebar
Can we bring back the lil counter at the bottom of the page while we're at it
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When you get banned or have a comment removed you should automatically get DMed a Feedback form. "Sorry to see you go! Tell us how we did!"
I know it's a meme in its own right now, but LiberalSocialist's "power dynamics" thing at least had some legs when it came to the material conditions that are most likely in place between significantly different aged people in a relationship, even if they're both adults.
They could have articulated that better than just spamming "power dynamics" at people constantly.
Also the more I looked into it the more I was convinced they were a Destiny fan doing a bit.
Also the more I looked into it the more I was convinced they were a Destiny fan doing a bit.
Why would a "Destiny" (that alias is too pretentious for me to not hang quotes on it) fan be anything but enthusiastic for abusing power dynamics?
Well specifically that whole power dynamics thing came up right when the Destiny sub was having a field day about Hasan having a sus age gap relationship with someone years ago. When someone pointed out the odd correlation in timing there they got really pissed about it.
Someone made a detailed post about it, but all their drama posts seemed to line up with things the Destiny sub were talking a lot about.
I didn't know those details and that explains a lot.
Sounds like it was was a slapfight between "influencers" that went the way it usually goes.
I think Hasan was a dating a Jackson? So the discourse went "Is the age gap problamatic?" >>>> "Is the age gap problamatic even if the younger person is more famous then you are even now, mr-twitch-politics-guy." I don't even remember if any of this was beyond rumor. You can see how this became a firestorm.
dating a Jackson
Now THIS is Titoism
I'm still surprised power dynamics is what stuck the most when "do you disagree?" was right there
"Do you disagree?" should have been the dunkable repeated quote. "Power dynamics" was a legitimate argument to me.
I also found "Power dynamics" as a response to like every comment after a certain point to be legitimately funny. If I remember a years old thread correctly LS did respond with some arguments early on but defaulted to it as the comment count got real high.
The liberals that come here are specifically redditors, so they're all idiots
Remember the tide of internet funny money peddlers that claimed that database ledger positions associated with ugly monkey cartoons would revolutionize the world and somehow stick it to the big banks and the current ruling class (that more than anyone else bought into the fucking things)? Good times.
Yeah, like Tom Morello
I totally forgot about that Onion-level shit. Haha.
"MOST OF MY HEROES DON'T APPEAR ON NO STAMPS" but you are invited to bid on my Sotheby's NFT...
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I'm somewhat ashamed to say that I own a piece of Morello merch -- some years back, he did a signature guitar wah-wah pedal with Dunlop. Funny thing is, it's just a regular Dunlop Crybaby wah, but with Zapatista graphics. I didn't already have a Crybaby, and the used market on those things dried up pretty badly during COVID lockdown, so I said fuck it, $5 above regular new price and I get EZLN livery on my wah? Count me the fuck in.
Then he went and did this NFT shit. God damn it, Tom.
Tangential, but this website was unusable for a second during the whole GME spectacle.
Oh, another vaguely ape-related bazinga cringe phenomenon, that one.
You said the site was unusable for a while?
Remember when people here said AI art was proletarianizing art by taking it from the """bourgeois""" artist class and putting it in the hands of the working class?
One of the early Bitcoin arguments was that it would help marginalized people in the global south who were cut off from traditional banking.
Fast forward to fairly recently, when some people in Palestine are using crypto to receive aid, Binance cut off access when Israel asked. No court orders necessary. Turns out crypto is easier to freeze than money in traditional banking.
Hey! I was a liberal and a redditor who came here and was rehabilitated. Granted I didn't come here to fight
I was a liberal when I went to the subreddit, also not to pick a fight, so don't think I was trying to call out people in your position.
I didn't genuinely think you were calling people like me out lol :P
I'm sure it's happened, I just can't remember any off hand.
The only example I can remember is on another instance, around a year ago maybe. It was a surprisingly civil conversation between a liberal and some hexbears about the Korean War. The liberal actually knew dates and names of specific documents, knew the names of people on either side, knew stuff about 1950s diplomacy. So i was impressed. There was also a surprising lack of portraying North Korea as a cartoonish dictatorship where haircuts are illegal.
The liberal still used a liberal framework though and was completely wrong. Any bare level scrutiny over the claims would reveal them as imperialist and racist, but it's possibly the only time I saw a liberal around here have at least the bare minimum of a presentable argument.
Some libs can be better than a class reductionist commie. But with some of the posts on this site, you generally don't get the good faith libs. I hear plenty of bad takes here (sometimes I'm the one making them) and it only takes a random lib to wander in and be right once or twice.
yes, but they wouldn't be labelled a lib so this is a logical impossibility.
also, confirmation bias is at play here.
Libs IRL
i can believe that, some PMC are very good at their jobs
in other online spaces
nah
There's a few r/neoliberal power posters who put some effort in and have seemingly done some reading.
non-zero chance they get paid for that lol
i think if we'd managed to stay federated with like 90% of the annoying instances we probably would've gotten one or two over the years. unfortunately our posting power was too strong to sail undetected
The smartest lib I've ever encountered basically copy-pasted the technical definition of production functions and tried to use it as a bludgeon in defense of marginalism, that's it, I've literally never encountered any lib here or on the old sub who ever approached that level of misguided articulation
It's genuinely hilarious how badly miseducated libs on lemmy are, I've yet to see a single one give a convincing definition of the main terms we use, let alone back up their supposedly grounded opposition to our ideologies, they can't even define their own ideology
I feel like we always get ones that are impossibly embarrassingly smug, like to the point where if they said the sky was blue I'd avoid mentioning my opinions on the sky's colour to avoid association
I have yet to see anything more sophisticated than "the other guy is worse, though"
The girl reading this
like a 14 year old who stole their moms laptop
I mean