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Emails: permanent written record I can refer to later

Can reply in my own time

Low labour

Low resource use

Phone call: Times/dates mentioned will be forgotten often

Active demand of time

I don't pick up because that phone number looks weird but also my phone's vibrate function is weak

High labour

High data cost per information

My shrink's office seems to want to keep billing information and past/present appointments secret. (This also seems to be worse in local industry, everything has to be a meeting instead of a two line email)

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 40 points 10 months ago (3 children)

My unironic answer is that like, idk, 50? 70? percent of Americans are only semi-literate and cannot write coherent text and struggle to read it.

[–] 12022081631@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

i keep encountering people who seem dyslexic but the possibility that they just aren't developing their reading comprehension i suppose is also there desolate

[–] OprahsedCreature@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago

How many dyslexic people in the US would ever even get diagnosed? That would require a semblance of healthcare right?

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 11 points 10 months ago

Something like 50% of US adults cannot read at a 6th grade level.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2022/08/02/us-literacy-rate/

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

I opt for phone calls because I am easily cowed by bureaucratic language and page structure, and I can't ask a page of text questions

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

Reasons they might prefer phone calls over emails:

  • Email is a written record you have and can potentially use against them. They can tape phone calls but they know you're unlikely to tape them.

  • It is easier to upsell something in a phone call than in an email.

  • If there are more emails than there's time to answer, they get a backlog. If there are more phone calls than there is time to answer you get a backlog or give up altogether.

  • It is easier to push a customer towards the resolution they want in a phone call than in an email.

[–] 12022081631@hexbear.net 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

this is probably my brain worm talking but after degoogling i have been left with the sense that people in aggregate have lost an understanding of email in general. like i feel like a goddang nerd for hyping up email in a world where people prefer text or phone calls. am i alone in this. am i on worm pills

[–] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I prefer to email, almost exclusively. It's so convenient and unobtrusive, and leads to more thoughtful conversation, but no one wants to check their email anymore because it reminds them of work.

Sally Rooney's novel Beautiful World, Where Are You? is partially an epistolary novel in the form of long emails and that gave me some hope that there are perhaps some other emailists still out there.

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

I have been nudged on the issue. You'd use text/phone as a walkie talkie and be responsible for emails the same way you might look at a pile of mail when convenient. That sounds cozy

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

I feel like a text is like a short email, or email is like a long text. But it feels like a more professional/legal thing compared to in person chats/chatroom/messenger.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

in short everything will marginally dehumanize and extract value until the working class cannot reproduce itself and the world dies

Now your dreams will never again be so peaceful. You will see capital in your nights, like a nightmare, that presses you and threatens to crush you. With terrified eyes you will see it get fatter, like a monster with one hundred proboscises that feverishly search the pores of your body to suck your blood. And finally you will learn to assume its boundless and gigantic proportions, its appearance dark and terrible, with eyes and mouth of fire, morphing its suckers into enormous hopeful trumpets, within which you’ll see thousands of human beings disappear: men, women, children. Down your face will trickle the sweat of death, because your time, and that of your wife and your children will soon arrive. And your final moan will be drowned out by the happy sneering of the monster, glad with your state, so much richer, so much more inhumane.

—Carlo Cafiero, Summary of Marx's Capital (1879)

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

What weirds me out is when customers prefer phone calls to emails. They want your assurance that an issue is being handled, they ask you to insist that you'll remember to call them back, and like, my note system is just scrawlings in Windows Notepad. If its in email, my boss sees it and I have a ledgerof undone tasks with timestamps. Asking me to manually do it all on the phone is begging me to lose it, or if I hate to, to intentionally fail to do it. That's much harder to do in email

[–] chickentendrils@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Maybe it's some personal preference if it's not too large of an organization? Some people have different communication styles.

Sometimes it's quicker to verbally transmit a lot of information that isn't worth memorializing in the kind of detail or with enough context for it to make sense.

Some places it's a cultural practice around not documenting things so that it's less traceable later.

[–] Abracadaniel@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

back/forth exchanges are much faster on a phone call than email, turn around time is in seconds.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago
[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

With small businesses, no one wants to hire someone to stand around checking the computer. Plus most people are terrible at writing emails.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

My number one use of chatGPT is corpo-ing up my emails >.>

[–] mar_k@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

phone or work phone that gives email notifications? i feel like that'd be a lot more convenient seeing they could wait 5 minutes vs having to immediately drop whatever they're doing for a call

[–] abc@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Emails are so much more annoying to troubleshoot whenever I get a client sending us an email saying "X and Y is BROKEN". It's equally annoying on a phone call - but at least then I have them physically by the ear and can hear the lie in their voice when I go "and have you tried a different browser?"

Of course, because I don't really mind phone calls - they have become my responsibility so I am fully 100% with you that we need to switch fully to email.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

I don't think we need to switch fully to email, I just think phone is unnecessarily preferenced. :/