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[–] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

Wait what sites are down? Just checked the ones I normally use and they're fine?

Also, just to say, I think there's this big learning curve with torrents cause people aren't straight forward with others ask for advice (told what not to do rather than what to do) and there's also just too much fear mongering about viruses.

[–] deaf_fish@lemm.ee 27 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Generational wars doesn't do anyone any favors.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 2 points 46 minutes ago

Acknowledging differences is not "war".

[–] cy@fedicy.us.to 1 points 1 hour ago

That's why they made streaming media. Worked good, didn't it?

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 10 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (5 children)
[–] Forbo@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 hour ago

LET'S ALL LOVE LAIN

[–] Antitoxic9087@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

and you don't seem to understand...

[–] Xatolos@reddthat.com 3 points 3 hours ago

Present day. Present time.

はい、そうです。

[–] mizuki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 8 hours ago (8 children)

as a high schooler with a special interest in computers, it's genuinely surprising how poor most of my peers computers skills are. most of my peers don't even know the very basics of folder structures.

also unrelated, let's all love lain

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Twenty years ago when I was 13, I started doing web stuff. This was back when everything was super simple, so everything to get a webserver up was super manual. I'll mention port forwarding at my current job and there's this slice of people that are 28-40 years old that know what I'm talking about.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 3 points 2 hours ago

I'm slightly younger than that even, currently finishing up my master's but have been working as a backend dev for a couple of years.

I've learned an order of magnitude more about networking from just being in the vicinity of my girlfriend (who is a network technician) than from uni, and it's definitely already paying off.

[–] breakcore@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

special interest

poor skill of peers

(I'm totally with you though)

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

I just watched lain some weeks ago without knowing what I have let me into 😂 got pretty confused, but I think in the end I got it. Probably..

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[–] incognito08@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Without seeds, torrents become almost useless, and many pirate sites offer rare and hard-to-find movies/animes whose torrent versions never download because their seeds are practically extinct forever. So I don't think this is a weak complaint. If torrents didn't have this weakness I would always choose to use them but...

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 12 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

The usenet has many treasures

[–] TopRamenBinLaden@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Usenet is awesome, but the fact that you have to pay for Usenet access defeats the main purpose of pirating for a lot of people.

Don't get me wrong, it is super cheap(60$-100$/year?) and worth it to pay for Usenet from what I understand, but as a poor kid that discovered torrenting out of necessity, paying for Usenet back then would've been out of the question. I imagine a lot of Gen Z kids feel the same about it at this point in their lives.

[–] smiletolerantly@awful.systems 3 points 2 hours ago

Especially if you buy access via 2 providers on different backbones. Haven't had a single failed/incomplete download since.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 44 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

It’s like cars. Almost everyone has one and can drive it but don’t know how it works. Computers have become that. There are some who know or have an idea of how it works and others who can use it but have no idea.

[–] pyrflie@lemm.ee 1 points 25 minutes ago

I'm the computer guy for my car guy and small engine guy. When I introduced them I became our group's guy guy. I don't really know anyone I just help people with their computers in conversations when I'm trying to fill my knowledge gaps.

[–] Ilandar@aussie.zone 1 points 33 minutes ago

Yeah I think that's a decent comparison. There are of course still hobbyists and enthusiasts today who know a lot about cars despite not being professionals working in a related field, but it does feel like the general understanding among the public has fallen because the cultural phenomenon of a father teaching his son about cars has dissipated. Piracy has always been a niche activity but the core skills and knowledges it requires were taught more to millennials than they were to zoomers. If people have grown up with less education about motor engines or desktop computers then it's not surprising they struggle to expand on that later in life.

[–] shirro@aussie.zone 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

The expense of tools, equipment and supplies can be a huge barrier to car maintenance but there is so much legitimately free software for computers (even ignoring the pirated stuff) that people never had so much opportunity.

If is like learning another language or a musical instrument, people have to be committed and practice to get good and few people can make the effort. Businesses have trained people to seek instant gratification from fast food, social media, tik tok, gambling, loot boxes, and consumerism in general because short lived and unfulfilling experiences produce an endless monetization opportunity. The rare people with the discipline and support to focus their efforts have massive advantages with access to information and tools which were very difficult in the past. There are some prodigies out there in a sea of mediocrity.

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