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https://www.axios.com/2024/10/22/trump-mass-deportation-immigrant-camps

Only 56% of Americans said that undocumented immigrants should be given a path to citizenship.

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[–] john_browns_beard@hexbear.net 94 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Funny coincidence, 100% of me supports putting 47% of Americans into reeducation camps.

[–] Finger@hexbear.net 40 points 3 days ago

no more half measures walter

[–] Castor_Troy@hexbear.net 38 points 3 days ago

I know a bunch of these people. They can't be re-educated. They get the wall.

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[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 57 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

same-as-it-ever-was

https://news.gallup.com/vault/195257/gallup-vault-wwii-era-support-japanese-internment.aspx

In December 1942, a year after Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and several months after Japanese-Americans living on the West Coast were subsequently "relocated" inland to U.S. detention camps, 48% of Americans believed the detainees should not be allowed to return to the Pacific coast after the war. Just 35% of Americans said they should be allowed to go back.

This country has always been evil

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 43 points 3 days ago (6 children)

FDR was by far the best President in the history of the United States, and it's not even close, but even he had concentration camps. The United States was always evil.

[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 42 points 3 days ago (1 children)

FDR also compromised on the New Deal, excluding African Americans from many new deal programs that would have helped, and also his administration made segregation country-wide via the Federal Housing Administration and their red-lining policies (see the book The Color of Law)

[–] grendahlgrendahlgen@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

Not In My Neighborhood is also an excellent book about the history of redlining.

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[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 55 points 3 days ago (2 children)

When the Dem leadership started embracing Trump's immigration policies, they took a huge chunk of their liberal base with them. First, it was fascist to support Trump's policies and only conservatives supported them. Now, libs joined them because they have zero principles, they can't even keep up the pretense of opposing policies that they themselves labeled fascist barely 4 years ago.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 39 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have whiplash from how fast the dems got on board with being the republicans they railed against 4 years ago.

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[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 35 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm not crazy and remembering something wrong, right? Immigration was a huge issue in 2016, a big thing being talked about. But I don't remember even ONCE Hillary trying to outflank Trump from the right on immigration.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

She didn't

But like many other issues, Dems 'let' Conservatives push everyone right

40 years ago, 'illegal immigration' was a non issue to everyone really

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[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 55 points 3 days ago (4 children)

For Fox News viewers it's 82%. I'm Jewish so I was curious about this...

Four in ten Jewish Americans (39%)

Great just great. The lessons of the Holocaust have already been forgotten by American Jews.

Source

Challenges to Democracy: The 2024 Election in Focus - prri.org

[...]

Rounding Up Illegal Immigrants into Militarized Encampments

Americans are divided over support for a policy that would round up and deport immigrants who are in the country illegally, even if it takes setting up encampments guarded by the U.S. military (47% favor, 50% oppose). Nearly eight in ten Republicans (79%) favor putting undocumented immigrants in encampments, compared with 47% of independents and 22% of Democrats.

The vast majority of Americans who most trust far-right news (91%) or Fox News (82%) favor militarized encampments for undocumented immigrants, compared with 44% of Americans who do not watch TV news and 36% who most trust mainstream TV news.

White evangelical Protestants (75%) are most likely to favor militarized encampments for undocumented immigrants, followed by the majority of white Catholics (61%), white mainline/non-evangelical Protestants (58%), and Latter-day Saints (56%). Among non-white Christians, around 47% of Hispanic Protestants, 42% of Black Protestants, and 33% of Hispanic Catholics favor this policy. Four in ten Jewish Americans (39%) and around three in ten unaffiliated Americans (32%) and other non-Christian religions (30%) also support militarized encampments. More than half of Americans who attend church weekly or more (57%) or at least a few times a year (51%) favor putting illegal immigrants in encampments, compared with 41% who seldom or never attend religious services.

Around seven in ten Christian nationalism Adherents and Sympathizers (71%) favor militarized encampments, compared with fewer than four in ten Rejecters and Skeptics (37%).

[–] Barx@hexbear.net 63 points 3 days ago

I'm not sure the lessons of the Holocaust have ever been learned outside of the Soviet Union.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 54 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Four in ten Jewish Americans (39%)

Well, at least that's below average... bleak.

The one that drew my attention was Hispanic Catholics at 33%. Like, come on, you understand that we're the ones they're gonna put in the camps?

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 33 points 3 days ago

Yeah! “Nothing bad is going to happen to me.” — Those f@king people 😂

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

"But I'm one of the good ones! They'll never put me in a camp!"

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 43 points 3 days ago

White evangelical Protestants (75%) are most likely to favor militarized encampments for undocumented immigrants

Fucking WASPs. I should have known but I'm still enraged. guts-rage

[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

It is hard to not produce hot takes that veer too close to anti-semitisim

[–] Yukiko@hexbear.net 46 points 3 days ago (3 children)

America is one step away from full on Fourth Reich.

[–] Lovely_sombrero@hexbear.net 56 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Already is on foreign policy. Domestically, it just isn't perfectly clear yet who the "undesirable groups" will be, because this must be something that both parties agree on and there will be some small disagreements.

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[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago

Wiemar Republic hours. It's felt like that for years.

[–] buh@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 48 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

My enemy is not the American ruling class, my enemy is the American people

cw Slammer gore

Unironically i think the world would be better off if all of us americans died

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[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

Trump's winning then.

Also it should be noted just how much and how far the Democrats and #resistance libs have enabled this anti immigrant attitude and behaviour. As an outsider it's incredibly obvious. We went from libs in 2016 saying that no human is illegal and having Anthony Bourdain (may his soul rest in peace) doing episodes of his restaurant and cooking shows in support of the immigrant community, to Kamala Harris plagiarising Trump's 2016 rhetoric and making up myths about how immigrants are bringing crime and drugs (in fentanyl) to the USA. How far they have fallen in less than a decade. Never forget that. Enablers often get off scot-free when they are just as guilty.

[–] footfaults@hexbear.net 22 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They didn't have far to fall, if you look back far enough. In 2004 Democrats ran on running the Iraq invasion more competently

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[–] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

This is literally already happening and has been since at least Bush and Obama? Does people think the border camps are operated and manned through pinky promises and good-faith dialogue? ICE uses boxes of chocolates and impassioned pleas? I guess this is support of it continuing?

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[–] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 34 points 3 days ago

I support putting evangelicals in gulags

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 33 points 3 days ago

can we put that 47% into camps instead

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 36 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Maybe the survey is from a poor sour-

PRRI survey

Maybe it's a small samp-

The survey was conducted among a representative sample of 5,027 adults (age 18 and up) living in all 50 states in the United States, who are part of Ipsos’s KnowledgePanel and an additional 325 who were recruited by Ipsos using opt-in survey panels to increase the sample sizes in smaller states. Interviews were conducted online between August 16 and September 4, 2024

w h a t t h e f u c k

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[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 38 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That includes a lot of Blue MAGA too. marx-doomer

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 35 points 3 days ago

hitler-detector Survey finds a large amount of amerikkkans are hitlerites

[–] FunkYankkkees@hexbear.net 26 points 3 days ago

Citizens of the reich will always see foreigners as undesirable
I am surprised it isn't higher

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Death to (47% of) Amerikkka amerikkka

[–] laziestflagellant@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago

Americans will build industrialized mechanisms of cruelty never before seen on earth, and it will cling to them all the way through its death throes

[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 23 points 3 days ago

I had low expectations but holy shit

[–] Z_Poster365@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is pretty bad even for Americans right? Like when was the last time anti-immigrant sentiment was this high? The great depression or something? This is like old timey levels of overt racism

[–] SSJ3Marx@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

Back in 2016 the Dems at least messaged against DJT's wall and migrant ban, so the rank and file were against it for the most part - but they went silent on it and now the line is "we wanted to build the wall but the Republicans wouldn't let us," so its no wonder that public sentiment is getting worse too.

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[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago

yup millions will die

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[–] GoodGuyWithACat@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

47%

hillary-contempt And where does that bring you? Back to me.

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[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

I mean it’s always been this way. Americans have been raging about great replacement and immigrants since its creation.

[–] jollyrogue@lemmy.ml 19 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I’m going to send this to my friend who likes giving people shit for being registered Democrat while they think being registered independent is some sort of virtue.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

I mean... I can't imagine being registered Democrat while more than a quarter of Dems believe in rounding up immigrants is better than being registered independent? At least an independent doesn't necessarily endorse a party that wants to carry out these actions (which I seriously doubt the Dems would object to, seeing as they continued Trump's immigration policies with very few changes).

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[–] StalinStan@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

Q: Are you scared and confused and lashing out at others around you? A:yes

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