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[–] AmericaDeserved711@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago

they're all smiling yet none of them look like they have ever experienced joy

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I've said it once and I'll say it again. Large parts of San Jose's population should be publically killed.

[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 4 points 6 days ago

They look like they all secretly fucking hate each other haha

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 94 points 1 week ago

“Progressivism never took root in geek culture because gamers didn’t see themselves as persecuted nerds, but as temporarily embarrassed jocks.” - DragonBallZinn

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 82 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Nah the former jocks include finance bros and car dealership owners. You may not think of that as jock labor but they didn’t all go on and become professional athletes.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

finance bros and car dealership owners.

100% + the new techbros and cryptonerds. The talenyed athletes are not usually the stereotypical jocks.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 44 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

I don’t have the exact quote but in high school English it was required reading that we read this sci-fi book called Unwind and one of the protagonists actually made this connection.

“There were two types of cops: the bullies who peaked in high school that want to keep reliving their glory days, and people who were bullied that want to oppress undesirables as a misguided way to get revenge on ‘wrongdoers’.” - Unwind (not exact quote just what I vaguely remember.)

But it explains the two types of fascists and those in fash jobs perfectly.

EDIT: Here’s the full quote -

“The way Risa sees it, there are two types of people who become Juvey-cops. Type one: bullies who want to spend their lives reliving their glory days of high school bullying. Type Two: the former victims of type ones, who see every Unwind as the kid who tormented them all those years ago. Type twos are endlessly shoveling vengeance into a pit that will never be full. Amazing that the bullies and victims can now work together to bring misery to others.“

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The overlap in personality types between moneyed City of London finance bro trader types, and Silicon Valley start up wanks was startling when I first moved to SF. Engineers just exist to support their pump and dump schemes, and the culture reflects that

[–] dessalines@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Are there any highschool subcultures that are cool now? Speaking from a US perspective:

  • Jocks are now finance/crypto bros, or clueless managers.
  • Nerds are building bombs or AI or spending their days trying to get people to click on ads.
  • Theatre kids are imperialist hamilton libs who think the US is "a nation of immigrants", and not a settler-state based on indigenous eviction.
  • Hippies are pacifist color-revolution-supporters.
  • Goths are probably eco-nihilists.
  • My experience with modern day punks, skaters, and stoners is that they're mostly some kind of libertarian who believe in a lot of reactionary conspiracy theories.
  • Hipsters are almost always some flavor of western-chauvinist / white supremacist.
[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Goths are our best bet. They also have a lot of experience of dealing with anything of a spooky nature. stirner-cool.

In a world where everyone is a prep in spirit, be a proud goth.

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago

Mmh I knew a gothpunk hunk anarchist but he said that one should laugh at male SA victims when they come forward and that damaging police property is “cringe” but acab & hooliganism is good?

But I agree most goths are pretty cool.

[–] graymess@hexbear.net 19 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Do any of these high school subcultures even still exist?

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago

Yes, I as a zoomer can say so confidently, although the lines arent so strong anymore. A lot nerdy hobbies are also done by the jocks and “jessicas” and the social groups are mixed up more.

[–] Murple_27@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Where did all the Greasers go?

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

These days they're mostly in retirement homes I think.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 33 points 1 week ago

I was just thinking that everyone who is recognizable to their high school archetype is probably part of the problem.

literally, if all someone does is move along the rails after high school, they likely suck.

the only people from high school who aren't fucked in the dome 20+ years later, are the people who are wildly different humans now and have some life path that can't be quickly understood without interpretation.

also, the people who just plain vanished and don't have any socials could probably be cool.

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[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

jocks are crypto scammers, cops, and people high on the corporate ladder, hell the chief executive overlord of those nerds in the picture is probably a jock

[–] Posadas@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Notable jock Elongated Muskrat

my-hero

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ur-CEO big wet dump was a jock in his highschool and college days

trump-drenched

[–] Red_Renewal_Cosmonaut@hexbear.net 48 points 1 week ago (4 children)

sure lets devolve everything to dumb stereotypes made up to sell merch thats very marxist of us

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

I work with these people and I was surrounded by their subculture as a child. They all deserve death. It's a very reactionary subculture with strong ingroup identity and hostility towards the outgroup of basically anyone else. The alt-right pipeline was created by these people. They dream of being slave owners.

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 43 points 1 week ago (1 children)

its not that deep

Death to America

im tired boss

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Americans will divide themselves with little outside input. Under capitalist alienation, they seek to find an in-group with the most asinine qualifications possible. The end product are clothing that says something like "I am a VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER born in FEBRUARY who is a SLYTHERIN and likes COFFEE and AIRSOFT"

"Yeah I'm a nerd, I'm a Hoosier, I listen to Tool, I drink La Croix, I drive stick, I live in the suburbs, I watch DCEU #ReleaseYetAnothetSnyderCut, I own cats. What sportsball team is playing in the Superb Owl this year? Haha"

I think it's perfectly fine to make fun of them for their voluntary association with even ostensibly benign labels.

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[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Jocks commiting war crimes:

side-eye-1 side-eye-2

[–] BigLenin@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Nah these days those are nerds too. I have a job where a work with a bunch of vets and most of them are massive fucking nerds who never held a rifle outside of basic.

[–] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago (8 children)

Okay, but the Navy SEALs and infantry war criminals are jocks

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[–] lorty@lemmygrad.ml 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Anyone who had the pleasure of being in STEM would know that in 1 picosecond.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

More specifically TE part. I’ve taken biology classes and usually the bio majors are great people.

Way too many CS bros are just business majors in spirit that are at least smart enough to learn a real skill.

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[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

objection there are plenty of jocks in STEM, its a jock field these days except for maybe CS and software eng

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[–] miz@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago
[–] AvocadoVapelung@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago (9 children)

it's all down to the theatre kids to save the world now

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 4 points 6 days ago

My experience of theatre kids as adults is vaguely left vibes but will defend Hamilton to the death

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 21 points 1 week ago

Hamilton 2: Ham Harder???

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[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're nerds, we're nerds, it's nerds all the way down.

[–] Posadas@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago

No, they're nerds we're dorks.

Big difference.

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago

If you're in tech and you're not trans, a gay furry or friends with a bunch of trans furries, you're in this picture.

[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago (1 children)

monkey-typewriter She grok on my twitter til I X dot com the everything site

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