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Maybe I'm too cynical, but that's what I got from it. The video way overstates the ease of DIY viral research and understates how tightly regulated it already is.

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[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 46 points 1 year ago

We must ensure that world wide plagues can only come from one place - Fort Detrick.

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

of course their solution is to forbid and restrict the technology, rather than create a global standard for healthcare

both of these two options are absurd in their scope and necessary coordination/workload/resources, but only one of them is stupid

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

But have you considered us-foreign-policy ?

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The real question is why anyone would make a superplague in their garage when warehouse space is so cheap and readily available in most urban environments

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

Particularly in Maryland

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

Neolib dogshit. It's the similar excuse to how India shouldn't be allowed to make generic covid vaccines.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This exposes the same disdain and misanthrope as liberals' gun control policies. If you leave the poors unattended they'll go Mad Max mode on everyone! There's basically nothing you can do about it except put everyone in a cattle prod ahead of time! And they're all inherently antisocial, there are no circumstances causing alienation, frankly the benevolent state has already done everything it could.

maybe-later-kiddo

[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Makes me wonder what maybe-later-kiddo is gonna say about this election

[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Iirc they’ve radicalized over the past 4 years

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

They're with Bernie now. /s

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

But they made it at Fort Detrick

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

I don't see biotech companies or US allied states EVER developing a super plague and SURELY not doing it on purpose

[–] space_comrade@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

Kurzgesagt being clickbait low-effort popsci garbage again? Impossible.

[–] Dalek@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its surprisingly easy to build bioweapons. All you need is a million quid electron microscope, the same extremely reliable refrigeration and warming tech the labs use at 200k each, and need a licence to buy the other raw materials.

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This is manifestly not true. Genetic engineering a bioweapon is not the only way to make it.

You can start with a known agent and use cultures or hosts to select for virulence, and you would be able to get surprisingly far. Just ask Japan.

[–] Dalek@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I never mentioned genetics. I mentioned how cultures are needed to be stored for it to work. If you look even at the ramshackle approach 1970s Japanese terrorists used - that still cost them a coupla million dollars worth to make it happen. Ricin was cheaper for them to work with and ended up having the results they'd wanted.

[–] D3FNC@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Not quite the reference I had in mind.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

A few million dollars is nothing in comparison to the effect releasing a weaponized agent would cause. There is a reason why the United States is the only country lawless enough to allow biowarfare research to continue. I maintain that you would not even need that much money if you weren't too picky about the final product. You could Tiger King your way to a meth lab grade bioweapon for 100k.

If Gregor Mendel could do it, nearly anyone with lab experience could do the same with yersinia taken from your friendly neighborhood Prairie dog. Or a state level actor could go to the ivory coast.

[–] Vampire@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

$100 gene printers for all! Open-source smallpox!

[–] pancake@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago

Would be cool if people could pirate biologics. Imagine downloading a $1M per unit drug and printing it for a few bucks.

[–] SuperNovaCouchGuy2@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

"we can trust megacorporations, the deep state, and the US with the technology to build super plagues more than anyone else!"

🤡🤡🤡

[–] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Same as the terrorists will build a nuke on the back of a van shit from 2000, someone tell this mfer 24 was not a documentary.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

Okay that makes sense....

Restrict TO biotech companies and/or US-allied states

I have a better idea. a-guy

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

oh no, another plague for the libs to ignore because otherwise line go down :(

[–] Yurt_Owl@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

How very Bill Gates of them

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

Lol both parties in the US have concluded that COVID was a Chinese lab made virus. Yet they don’t give a shit because even if they did truly believe it, they still need you to clock in at 9 am sharp.

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Really makes me ponder where the most recent super plague was cooked up and why this nerd argues they should retain the ability to cook

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Plague-level biological warfare has only been conducted by state entities, and despite several terrorist states possessing immense nuclear arsenals, there has not been a super war. There is no reason to believe DIY biologists are going to engineer a superplague in their kitchen laboratories. This is clearly a bullshit justification to further centralize power in the hands of pharmaceutical companies and terrorist organizations such as the US government.

[–] RNAi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Anyone has a spare 700 Exabytes harddrive so I can download the whole ncbi?

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

"Only irresponsible governments and it's cooperative backers should be able to fuck around with infectious diseases. We should keep all that tech in their hands so nobody else will be able to create countermeasures because we've monopolized all research into the matter."

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

The hard part of building a super-plague is not information it's materials. It's trivially easy to get the lengths of DNA you need to design something and obfuscate it enough that nobody would even know. The hard part is testing it and making sure it does what you want in various conditions.