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submitted 4 months ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to c/news@lemmy.world

The families of Sandy Hook school shooting victims voted overwhelmingly in favor of a plan to wrap up Alex Jones’ bankruptcy proceedings by liquidating the right wing talk show host’s assets.

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[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 278 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Jones’ general unsecured creditors—comprised mostly of Sandy Hook families holding about $1.5 billion in defamation judgments against the famed conspiracy theorist—voted 100% in favor of a Chapter 11 plan that would methodically liquidate and redistribute his property and cash, while preserving potential legal actions against parties affiliated with Jones and his Infowars program.

I hope he dies penniless under a bridge somewhere, like the troll he is.

[-] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 56 points 4 months ago

Once you reach a certain level of wealthy, you literally cannot die poor. Sadly this isn't the movie trading places. Billionaires don't go fully broke, they're always allowed to keep a certain level of wealth forever after

[-] Vorticity@lemmy.world 56 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I agree with you. Just a note, though; Alex isn't a billionaire. Even the plaintiff's lawyers estimated his wealth at only "as much as $270M". It still makes me sad to realize how many people he grifted, defamed, and otherwise harmed to make that much money...

[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 31 points 4 months ago

Well ya super rich people designed the entire legal system in the US specifically to protect themselves from ever have to face any real consequences for their crimes. You dont have to look much further than Donald J Trump to see how thats working.

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[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 21 points 4 months ago

Jones definitely isn't a billionaire. He owns a glorified YouTube Channel that sells supplements and brain pills. Hopefully he is toast.

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[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 52 points 4 months ago

The vote indicates the creditors’ preference over a competing plan submitted by Jones that would allow him to reorganize by preserving parts of his media empire and paying the group at least $5.5 million a year over 10 years.

Lmao this part cracks me up the most. He was like "how about instead of selling all my stuff, I give you pennies on the dollar of what I owe you for a few years and we call it good?"

[-] frunch@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago

He's been dealing with some of the dumbest fucks on the planet (his viewers/listeners) for so long he thinks ridiculous shit like that works on everyone

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Would you like $100 million now or $55 million later?

He could have at least tripled the offer in order to get a real shot. I expect they're invested in his fall, however.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 23 points 4 months ago

I think his rock bottom is to be the kept creature of some Russian oligarch.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 145 points 4 months ago

Do it.

Tired of seeing these wingnuts get away with murder or just refuse to comply with court orders.

[-] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 30 points 4 months ago

Unfortunately I think we have a ton more of that still to see

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 75 points 4 months ago
[-] TedZanzibar@feddit.uk 24 points 4 months ago

"I am not good with computer"

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 17 points 4 months ago

Pushing buttons not for you? That's fine. How do you feel about pulling levers?

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[-] athos77@kbin.social 120 points 4 months ago

Sandy Hook families holding about $1.5 billion in defamation judgments [...] a competing plan submitted by Jones that would allow him to reorganize by preserving parts of his media empire and paying the group at least $5.5 million a year over 10 years

Literally pennies on the dollar.

His house in Austin, that he bought for a couple million dollars, he sold to his wife in 2022 for the grand total of ten dollars. They're going to claw that back from him for trying to hide it. And then they're going to force him to sell it because Texas bankruptcy law only keeps your house in a city or town safe from bankruptcy seizure if it's one acre or less. And the lot his house is on is 1.089 acres - such a shame!

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 40 points 4 months ago

Sandy Hook families holding about $1.5 billion in defamation judgments [...] a competing plan submitted by Jones that would allow him to reorganize by preserving parts of his media empire and paying the group at least $5.5 million a year over 10 years

What's the difference between 1.5 billion and 5.5 million? About 1.5 billion.

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[-] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 34 points 4 months ago

Sandy Hook families holding about $1.5 billion in defamation judgments [...] a competing plan submitted by Jones that would allow him to reorganize by preserving parts of his media empire and paying the group at least $5.5 million a year over 10 years

Why did you omit the part where they didn't accept that plan? Those ellipses did some heavy lifting.

[-] nxdefiant@startrek.website 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It really is the best part, because he's trying to weasel out of it saying "if you want money I've got to keep the machine running to make more" but the families holding him accountable are setting his everything on fire telling him it was never about the money, and that's awesome. He was hoping greed would save his ass but here he is in the hands of people who want real justice - the dismantling of the very machine he used to do harm.

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[-] nothing@lemm.ee 29 points 4 months ago

Also there may be state specific differences, but the transfer of his assets to his wife only is called a "fraudulent conveyance" and is still able to be obtained to the debtors. Also it was a dick move and requires more lawyers.

[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 112 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I don’t know what’s funnier; Alex Jones’s estate being liquidated to pay back the families of his victims, or Mike Lindell being forced to pay the $5 million “prize” he offered to disprove his election fraud lies, and then was sued because he refused to pay it after he was easily disproven.

God damn it’s a good week for honesty.

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[-] Gazumi@lemmy.world 98 points 4 months ago

Bbbbbbb but, what about his freedom of speech!!!! I hope that he finds complete misery and hopelessness after the things he's done to those families.

[-] eltrain123@lemmy.world 79 points 4 months ago

He is free to say whatever he wants and the government can’t stop him.

He is also accountable to his victims if his actions cause them financial harm.

Freedom of speech remains intact.

[-] derpgon@programming.dev 27 points 4 months ago

Freedom of speech, freedom of consequence.

[-] Igloojoe@lemm.ee 19 points 4 months ago

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom to harass others.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Yep..need to highlight the differences between saying "we need to be aware that this could be a false flag operation by Democrats to condition American citizens to accept oppressive gun control" and "(specific) people took money from George Soros to fake having a child and fake having them die in a fake school shooting because they hate America and want to make everyone slaves. We used to kill people like that, people who did what (specific person) did" over and over on nationally accessible broadcasts. Roughly paraphrased AJ's stance there, but you get the point.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Every time someone asks me the difference between free speech and freeze-peach, I just point to this asshole.

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[-] reagansrottencorpse@lemmy.world 91 points 4 months ago

We should do this more. Liquidate bad wealthy people's assets and distribute it to those they have harmed.

Granted that hasn't happened here yet, but I hope it does.

[-] Smokeless7048@lemmy.world 82 points 4 months ago

Good, Break him, sell his company.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 36 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Dissolve the board of directors.

Sandy hook parents can choose what kind of acid to use.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 77 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

This is like the best news day in ages.

(Sorry, I'm out of Rikers and need a refill. Two Rikers in an hour is just too many and I already used up the two I had.)

[-] Maultasche@lemmy.world 15 points 4 months ago

Sounds like Deanna having a threesome with Will and Thomas.

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[-] Gork@lemm.ee 34 points 4 months ago

This dude has got to be hiding gold somewhere, now they just need to find out where.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

Like any good nazi, I'd wager its in a swiss bank.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

I don't know, if I was him, I wouldn't trust gold considering all the gold scam ads Infowars runs.

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[-] CaptainSpaceman@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

Same thing gonna happen to trump

[-] orclev@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

We can only hope. If we're really good this year maybe Santa will bring us the same thing for another one of these disgusting wastes of oxygen like Tucker Carlson or MTG.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 28 points 4 months ago

So I hear organs can usually fetch some good money... Just a random, totally unrelated thought I had.

[-] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Alex Jones is a raging alcoholic. Nobody's interested in those vodka marinaded organs. You can pick a random episode of the Knowledge Fight podcast and there's a damn near 50/50 chance the episode of Info Wars they're going to be tearing apart will culminate with a drunken, crying, screaming, Alex Jones temper tantrum.

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[-] neidu2@feddit.nl 26 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Can't wait for Knowledge Fight to cover this. Last episode largely involved AJ not being present in thebstudio due to "having to deal with some bankruptcy matters"

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[-] Bleach7297@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 months ago

Awe c'mon. He was just speeching! Isn't speeching protected? Don't unfree his speech, why you hate liberdom and freedity?

[-] randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 4 months ago

This is Great... Unfortunately this is too little too late ...

He's already moved out every asset he owns from under his control to other sources. They've given this man too much time to make himself appear "Virtually" as pauper on paper. He'll go to prison before he ever gives them a cent.

[-] thefartographer@lemm.ee 55 points 4 months ago

That's what makes auditors so damn cool yet scary. They can trace that shit.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 24 points 4 months ago

Forensic auditors are scary. However, given the caliber of people Alex Jones surrounds himself with, I have a sneaking suspicion it wouldn't be particularly difficult to untangle his finances (relatively speaking).

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[-] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago

Yeah, that's not as hopeless as you think. They can easily track what he did to obviously hide his assets in the time since the judgement and still seize them from the parties who now could face charges for accepting them.

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[-] Fenrisulfir@lemmy.ca 16 points 4 months ago

There’s a vote for this? Where do we register?

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