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[–] Rom@hexbear.net 66 points 7 months ago (3 children)

They want a president who listens and delivers. That's Joe Biden.

Then why did they vote uncommitted?

We will earn their votes between now and November.

This is what a complete denial of reality looks like.

[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago

Here's how Earn-y can still win

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

They want a president who listens and delivers. That's Joe Biden.

LMAO, still waiting on $2000 and student debt cancellation.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

We know that nearly all of the folks voting uncommitted do not support the extremism, the xenophobia, and incompetence of Donald Trump

is pretty hilarious too, even ignoring that Joe is all of those things

When said voters are voting in dem primaries against your guy where he's the only candidate, the hell makes you think they're all gonna turn out to vote for him in November? Many of them are just gonna stay home lmao, it isn't just a binary

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 57 points 7 months ago (1 children)

In a democracy you are supposed to do what the people want, you're not supposed to tell the people what they want

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago

it's gotten them this far, why stop now?

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 54 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I wonder what happened when an unpopular candidate - one especially unpopular in the Midwest and Michigan in particular - ran just assuming they'd all flock to the Dems when Trump stood as the opposing choice? 🤔

What do you mean 2016 Hillary? I don't understand. I am a liberal, my horizon exists only within a few years ago.

[–] JoBo@feddit.uk 17 points 7 months ago

Dunning-Kruger Liberalism is a truly stunning phenomenon.

Learn something? How can we learn something when we already know everything there is to know? It's the voters who are wrong.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I actually cannot remember anything prior to October 7, 2023. Before that, I believe the world came into being on February 24, 2022.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You claim the world came into existence in 2022, yet you joined chapo.chat in 2020. What was going on in that year and a half before the world existed? brow

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You claim I joined chapo dot cat, yet chapo dot chat does not exist today. Curious! very-intelligent

[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Actually, when you rename something, it continues to exist! Explain that!

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)
[–] wopazoo@hexbear.net 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Source: Snopes

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

Struggle sessions about outdoor cats

[–] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 52 points 7 months ago

We have to stop Trump. He's threatening our democracy in which people vote "uncommitted" to a candidate and the representative of the candidate ignores that and says "no they really do want our candidate." You know democracy, that thing where you tell the leaders what you want and they correct you.

[–] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 49 points 7 months ago

"They want a president who listens and delivers. That's Joe Biden."

phoenix-objection-1phoenix-objection-2 objection

[–] MorelaakIsBack@hexbear.net 46 points 7 months ago

110k voters go "uh so my part of the contract is gonna go unsigned until i see some tangible actions taken towards ending the genocide we are perpetuating"

Biden: welp, that didn't happen. Kamala, did you see anything? i sure didn't

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 36 points 7 months ago

i can relate to this uncommitted fella, i can't get things done for shit

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Insane levels of double-speak to say "we will earn their votes between now and November" after describing your strategy of changing nothing and assuming people will fall in line.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

They're not even saying they'll earn votes, just that this protest vote is meaningless and can be ignored.

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I mean to be fair to them it worked out last time. They have no real reason to think people won't fall in line now, certainly not enough to justify changing their evil policies over it.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 42 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The difference is people have had 4 years of broken promises and now genocide on top of that

They are tired of things getting worse

[–] Doubledee@hexbear.net 21 points 7 months ago

True enough, I'm certainly not saying their complacency will pay off, but they haven't actually felt any consequences yet. They prefer to eat shit before thinking about how they could better handle their situation.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago (1 children)

They didn't do anything in 2000, 2004, 2008, 2012, 2016, or 2020. What makes you think they'll do anything in 2024?

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 18 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Last time trump’s failure to handle Covid was fresh in people’s minds and definitely influenced votes. That isn’t nearly as relevant anymore (sadly.)

Now we have 4 years of Biden only delivering on his donor promise of “nothing will fundamentally change.” People’s material living conditions have continued to degrade under his stewardship. Meanwhile, Biden is actively enabling a genocide, and the dems’ pathetic rallying cry is “Trump will genocide worse!”

I didn’t think the dems could continue to get even worse at politics, but here we are, and it’s looking like a very dark November is coming.

[–] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

The fact that libs are so desperate to get everyone to believe the economy is going great actually (and you’re just an unserious dum dum if you think Bidenomics isn’t working) tells me they absolutely know the economy sucks and they are shitting their pants over it. Because “it’s the economy, stupid” is actually a reliable predictor of how people ultimately end up voting.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

And now it's Biden's failure to handle COVID

[–] Egon@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Part of that I suppose is also that Biden didn't handle COVID better than Trump. He just declared it over and called it a day. At least trump gave financial aid

[–] SexUnderSocialism@hexbear.net 28 points 7 months ago

Apparently a lib president supporting genocide is not extremism or xenophobia.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

conspiracy time: a backdoor deal is made with trump from the biden admin.

it includes promises like charges dropped, pardons, and making his state problems go away. all he has to do is be virulently pro-genocide on the campaign. i mean openly calling for U.S. boots on the ground, U.S. ground invasions of Lebanon and Yemen, and promises of full air support at israel's disposal, no questions asked. they even give him notes to read.

and he's so deflated at this point that he takes the out instead of being usual trump.

all just to make himself seem the worst choice. bing bam he loses by some margin and his problems go away.

[–] edge@hexbear.net 30 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Trump would probably win and do all of that.

[–] Des@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

yep. the choices are really not

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Joe Biden can't even deliver mail

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 20 points 7 months ago (1 children)

He can deliver bombs to nazis but can't deliver mail

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 23 points 7 months ago

He can deliver bombs to nazis

sicko-wistful

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago

Some of them might, yes

But so many more will see their supposed champion continue to spill the blood of the innocent, continue to let the world fall down around him, continue to drag us all closer and closer to destruction and realize that we can do better

We have to

[–] Notcontenttobequiet@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago

Ryan Grim news for the Democrats kelly

[–] EelBolshevikism@hexbear.net 17 points 7 months ago

They’re doing the “what did you say?” every menacing villain asks someone when they diss them before they repeat the diss and the villain gets all angry.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago

We know the people will never fail the Party.

[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

theyre gonna get cooked arent they

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago
[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

Western liberal "democracy" is such a fucking joke.

[–] Meh@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

Biden will listen to your concerns and deliver more genocide. What more could voters possibly ask for?

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 4 points 7 months ago

"What are they going to do, vote republican!?"

They did in 2016, smartass.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

Yeah I'm uncommitted. UN committed.

un-cool

[–] moujikman@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

It's a confidence scam. Make Biden appear as a trusted figure. Present a false dichotomy by presenting the election as a critical choice between stability and chaos. Then create a sense of urgency then lean into the bandwagon effect to finish it off.