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What groups are eligible for mass sacrifice to defend "democracy"?

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 85 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I don't think they'll get it. They've been quouting that stupid fucking Neimoller poem for decades, they put it on the Holocaust musem, and they absolutely do not fucking get it at all.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 78 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The version of that Niemoller poem they put on the Holocaust museum removes the first line which is just the perfect encapsulation of not getting it at all

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 43 points 10 months ago

It's grotesque that they did that. Dear liberals, if you feel compelled to put a political spin on holocaust remembrance, you are doing The Bad Thing and you should go sit in a dark corner and feel bad about it until we tell you to come out.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 55 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

First they came for the Palestinians and I said VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO! vote atlantic-council

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 48 points 10 months ago

First they came for the Palestinians and I shrugged and said, "what're you gonna do, folks just really seem to have it out for them."

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 72 points 10 months ago

what ethnic groups are exempt from this bargain?

This part of your post reminds me of my most upbeared post. Jesus fucking Christ.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 68 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's not just ethnic groups. Queer people, homeless people, disabled people, and so on will be enthusiastically thrown under the bus by these absolute freaks if they think something can be gained from doing so.

The cat is out of the bag.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 53 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Scotus just made it legal to punish people for being homeless. I expect to see massive escalations - mass slavery, concentration camps, probably some degree of organized killing, within a few years.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 50 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

It's socialism or barbarism, and they have chosen barbarism.

I have maybe 30 years left to live at best, and I fully expect to see climate refugees being machinegunned at EU borders before I kick the bucket. You guys over there in the US will probably see the same on your southern border.

And the "adults in the room" liberals will be on TV and in newspapers going on about how it's "not ideal but we have no other options".

[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 38 points 10 months ago

We've already got a governor booby trapping the Rio Grande like he's auditioning for the next Saw movie.

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 10 months ago

Right on time for the Bell Riots. SCOTUS has no sense of irony.

[–] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago

think a bunch of people mightve gotten the memo early :(

i think they hurt themselves too :/

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 60 points 10 months ago (5 children)

My greatest hope is that I live to see the day when America has fallen to such an extent that anothet country can enforce upon the White Liberal the conditions the White liberal has imposed upon the world.

[–] crazyminner@lemmy.ml 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Let's hope they do better for all our sake.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

The year is 2070, Latin American tourists go to American to see quaint gasoline powered cars from the 2020s that Americans have to drive because of Cuban sanctions against the US.

All is well in the world.

[–] Dingus_Khan@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

We are due for a century of humiliation

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

My greatest hope is that nobody can enact such suffering upon others, and that nobody should feel they must.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I get what you mean, but at the same time this is like jumping someone from behind, beating them while they're down, and then as they get back up for a swing going "woah woah can't we all just get along?"

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

I thought we were saying what we hoped for, not what we expect or find just?

The people I hope to see drawn and quartered are the bourgeoisie. I prefer that working class liberals be reeducated.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Look, I get the hope, but nah. After four hundred years of unbroken bullshit perpetuated against my people, you're smoking rocks if you think getback in blood isn't mandatory.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm black and trans; it's not like my people dont have grievances too.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

to such an extent that another country can enforce upon the White Liberal the conditions the White liberal has imposed upon the world.

Shit I hope it's Black and Indigenous folk enforcing those conditions on the Anglo. Fuck another country, let us get ours in first; then everyone else can have their shots.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

Looking forward to The Washington Trials setting world records for number of executed fascists and colloquially replacing the The Nuremberg Trials.

[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The US has always been a genocidal fascist apartheid state. You've never once been able to not vote for genocide

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago

This country is a mass grave and fresh bodies are being dumped inside every moment.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 34 points 10 months ago

Telling Americans that voting for Biden counts as an endorsement of genocide and then getting a wall of text back and getting to reply thst whatever they said doesn't change that fact has been...sad. But I will remember their names and what they said.

[–] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 31 points 10 months ago

if they were capable of self reflection they wouldn't be liberals

Death to America

[–] Sickos@hexbear.net 31 points 10 months ago
[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 28 points 10 months ago

"I can excuse genocide"

[–] Andrzej@lemmy.myserv.one 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean Biden's pitch has always carried the implicit promise not to do anything about the systemic extrajudicial executions of black people, so

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

Nothing will fundamentally changebiden-troll

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They'll tell you, it's American citizens. International lives don't matter in the slightest.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

but only the hwite ones and even then they better have money

[–] GrainEater@lemmygrad.ml 17 points 10 months ago

no, but, you see, Trump(TM) would do even more genocide^[citation\ needed]^ so we have to vote for the lesser of two genocides instead of trying to stop it

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

This is exactly the line to use - whatever they accept happening to Palestinians today, they'll accept happening to trans people tomorrow.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

The line is drawn wherever they are. It is a lot easier to engage in lesser evilism when the lesser evil doesn’t directly affect you.

[–] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago

This election it's "sure what is happening to Palestinians is bad, but Biden is better on all these other issues" Next election it will be "sure what is happening to trans people is bad, but X is better on all these other issues"

[–] The_sleepy_woke_dialectic@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

No, I've been told a couple dozen times that I'm acting like a one issue voter. They don't think genocide is particularly important and certainly less important than the economy.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Are any candidates proposing to do anything useful in regards to the economy? I missed the debate.

[–] The_sleepy_woke_dialectic@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

No, in fact they barely talked about the economy. Biden got a mild hardball question right at the beginning which was something like "The economy is the most important issue among voters. Even though inflation has ended people feel that prices of groceries and other necessities like housing are very high, what do you say about that?" And his answer was basically "I inherited a bad economy from Trump" and Trump said something about floods of immigrants and that was it

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

I blame my mistakes at work on Trump, too.