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In all seriousness I feel like the common answers I saw of Diogenes (because that was like, his entire shtick) or Socrates (because they killed him for being annoying) are probably better answers but saying its Trotsky on a leftist forum is way funnier.

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[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Trotsky is a good answer and funny for leftists to say.

Cicero also works.

Charles De Gaulle is also a possibility.

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

But without Charles De Gaulle we lose one of my favorite quotes!

[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago (2 children)

not super evil

De Gaulle is responsible for thousands of deaths in Africa

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I guess... but he's also responsible for this... from Lightiggy's post in reddit...

[–] healthkick@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Oh shit I have a friend of French-Algerian descent and I know her father, who is Algerian, was imprisoned and treated harshly in Algeria during this period.

He moved to France and I always wondered what it would be like to migrate to the country that tortured you, but a penny just dropped and now I think I understand why he moved to France.

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[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

my b I guess I only registered the "annoying" part of the question

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trotsky is the worst even more so for the legacy he left behind. Empowering these fucking nerds to create orgs that gotcha AES countries and fall in line with the imperialist core talking points all the while claiming the banner of Socialists.

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Martin Luther reminds me of Destiny

[–] Breath_Of_The_Snake@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It never ceases to amaze me that he went off half cocked with a bad translation and became a bigot instead of engaging in self crit. Like this is the guy who started a movement? Bruh embraced hatred before admitting he fucked up bad and is somehow the most influential figure of his time.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

And we're all still paying for it in blood.

Read this if you want to find out how much of a craven bootlicker Martin Luther was

[–] happybadger@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

Nailing 95 theses against tankies to my ex-wife's door in the hopes she'll call me to complain.

[–] healthkick@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Cato was an annoying and self righteous piece of shit

Real “giving the plebes bread is not just a threat to my personal wealth but an unholy affront to our sacred republic” kind of guy

Plus modern day libertarians love the guy so what more do you need? They named the fucking Cato institute after him case closed

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I also self-deluded myself into believing Cato was the not the inspiration for that name...

Wasn't Cato the insanely misogynistic dumb fuck (even by Roman standards) that would always whine about women existing and then demand Carthage be destroyed (eventually, famously, this happened)

Guy was a total shitter and asshole. A legendary one that is remembered thousands of years later for his insane rants.

[–] healthkick@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

There were multiple Cato’s and every one of them was a self righteous patrician traditionalist.

I’m referring to Cato the younger, contemporary of Julius Caesar who is probably the more famous one but there’s also Cato the elder who was basically the same figure a century beforehand.

But it doesn’t matter which. Misogynistic patriarchal patricians who believed that their position atop the socio-economic hierarchy was a law of nature.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How I didn't think of Stirner as a contender until my friend mentioned it is honestly shockingly.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wasn't Stirner a fake guy made up for Marx to be mad at though?

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Communism is when I do whatever I want, and the more I do, the more communist it is.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but Stirner is just too cool and audacious to be annoying, even Marx was tickled by the mere "existence" of the man

Now his fans who take his theories seriously on the other hand.....

[–] novibe@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Stirner would bully egoists so hard…

[–] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Trotsky himself COULD be sophisticated, and I think he wrote somewhere that had he been in power instead of Stalin those 5 year plans wouldn't have been that much less painful, but the political movement he left behind produced some of the more simplistic narratives about socialism ever, on par with "muh human nature" shit

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

He did some genuinely intelligent things during the revolution. It's a shame the power struggle and his theories turned out the way it did, the movement he left behind, as you say, is incredibly annoying.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

I feel like Voltaire was probably a real pill. Just not fun to be around.

[–] kot@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I know this is a shitpost, but the real reason Socrates was executed was his real or perceived ties with the dictatorship of the 30, which took power after they lost Peloponesian war, and killed a bunch of athenians.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh, but also I'm sure him being insufferable did not help.

[–] healthkick@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

everybody liked this

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

I.F. Stone Breaks the Socrates Story: An old muckraker sheds fresh light on the 2,500-year-old mystery and reveals some Athenian political realities that Plato did his best to hide.

http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/socrates/ifstoneinterview.html

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

big-yud

I may be biased because computer science and engineering are some of my deepest passions, and this Dunning Kruger dipshit has managed to gain an entirely unwarranted degree of trust to speak about the subjects. I also personally know people who got suckered into his cult.

[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Jesus during his time managed to piss off a great many people, so he's probably a contender. He would refuse to answer questions straight and would always use parables, and pissed off the Pharisees to no end. He even befriended a tax collector!

[–] Breath_Of_The_Snake@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Parables are a decent way to overcome the general illiteracy of the time. People have always responded well to Aesop fables. Use symbolic tales parallel to the deeper lesson and all that.

Creating the worlds most colonial religion is definitely a top tier most aggravating move though tbh.

[–] ImWaitingForRetcons@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

Actually, according to Mark, Jesus spoke in parables in order to hide the true meaning of what he said. 🤷‍♂️

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine being so annoying while claiming to be the son of god that everyone is eventually like "ok, can we fucking crucify this guy already?" then the motherfucker (literally, god fucked mary, and Jesus is god... 🤨) has the audacity to be like "it's ok, my friends. I will die for your sins!" That would be enough for me to be the guy begging the Roman soldiers to stab him in the liver or something to cause additional pain.

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[–] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of Urbanist Twitter could probably go here. Objectively correct takes delivered in the most insufferable way possible

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

Blaming poor people for needing a car to survive is my least favorite if there's

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Socrates seems in the running for this

[–] Breath_Of_The_Snake@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Dude was so annoying he was forced to choose between social or literal suicide and chose to become a martyr for debate bros everywhere.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There was 80 judges who declared him innocent but demanded death penalty for him anyway lol.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Truly the most annoying correct person ever.

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[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

bill mahler, elong musk, ayn Rrand, martin luther, or galileo

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah, Bill fucking Mahr. I hate that man with such purity.

[–] dannoffs@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How has no one said Ayn Rand

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago

It said no evil people

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[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Ptolemy that little shit

[–] Bobson_Dugnutt@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Matthew Yglesias

My hate for Elon Musk is pure. Every time he opens his yap it's the stupidest shit, like so on the nose obvious bullshit.

[–] Gorb@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Russel Brand takes the top spot easily

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[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I vote for my older sister circa when we were teenagers

[–] romaselli@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

John Legend

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