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I still see blue checks in Twitter that need to reply with "*you're" kinda bullshit. I do reread some of my posts and I see them littered with mobile edits or just bullshit language that only made sense to my brain at 2am. Thanks everybody for being chill about language. I still (wrongly) imagine that I'm very good with writing, and seeing my own writing some time after it's been published is a nice kick of humility.

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[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 45 points 6 months ago (2 children)

A couple accounts ago on reddit-logo, I was arguing with a lib and called their beliefs "inane".

They proceeded to correct me with "*insane, and they're not".

This is an American with English as their first and only language, I'm Chinese and English is my second language. Libs with vibes based politics absolutely get psychic healing from feeling "correct" even when they're objectively incorrect. They need to get one over whomever they're arguing with so they can feel superior. This leads to debate bro brain worms.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

There's a great pair of scenes in Django Unchained that summarize those types of redditors. In the first scene the slaver Calvin Candie bullies and ridicules one of his slaves for not knowing the word "reimburse." Because he's a cruel dickhead.

Later on when Dr. Schultz (who admits English is not his first language!) drops the word "panache" in conversation Candie can't define it, making Candie look like a bozo.

Smug reddit types are the bad guys in a Tarantino movie.

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's even funnier because Candie likes to boast that he's a huge francophile, but when asked about a French word he's caught up in his lies. Same with reddit guys who love to feel smarter than everyone else but fail to show basic intelligence.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

On another forum years ago with a news and debate subforum, I was arguing with chuds about I forget what. I do remember, though, using the term "proto-feminism" when describing Mary Wollstonecraft and arguments she was making before the First Wave Suffragettes. Some chud started arguing about Mary Shelly and Frankenstein weren't "pro-feminist". Not only getting the wrong Mary, but he also confused himself with an argument nobody made and went on some tirade about it.

I came back a few hours after I posted and said "Your rage essay is tl;dr and you worked yourself up over something because you have poor reading comprehension." I think he even had Wikipedia links, which was even more funny because they were to the wrong things.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Me desperately combing this post for a grammatical error so that I can call it out...

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

*That's

smuglord my-hero

(yeah even ironically this is a jerk move)

[–] miz@hexbear.net 7 points 6 months ago

look how kind you are being to Flyberius, putting an error in there on purpose

meow-hug

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I love "writing properly", because when I see a word properly spelled, or good grammar, my brain thinks it's pretty, so I really like spelling and grammar and so on.

But I know that linguistic prescriptivism is bullshit, and the first cop you have to kill before the revolution is the cop in your own head. So fuck that reddit ass "u misspelled your argument is invalid" bs.

[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 22 points 6 months ago

GRAMMAR IS A TOOL OF OPPRESSION USED BY THE BOURGEOISIE TO PACIFY THE PROLETARIAT INTO A STATE OF DORMANCY AND COMPLIANCE!

RISE, COMRADES! RISE AND SHITPOST TO YOUR HEART’S CONTENT SO THAT OUR REVOLUTION WILL TEAR DEEP INTO THE VERY FABRIC OF OUR COMMUNITY! programming-communism

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

No gods master's no grammar anarchy-a-white

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I had some obnoxious, higher-ranked, reddit-energy colleague who's a fascist sympathizer correct me pronouncing "anticlimactic" by saying it's "anticlimatic". I didn't say anything but it felt good that others saw her fall on her face with that one, totally her own arrogance.

Humility goes a long way.

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Irl, I say "croy-sant" for croissant just to deal incidental psychic damage to any French person that overhear it (I believe the kids call this "Praxis", you're welcome). This is in a commercial kitchen staffed with people who have English as their second or third language, it really doesn't bother anyone I work with very much.

However, every now and then I use the word in public or with strangers is and get corrected because it's actually craw-son. Then I can one up them by saying "actually, it's kwa-sahn you connard".

I know how to pronounce French words correctly, I simply choose not to.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

based and du Bois pilled

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[–] Lerios@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago

yeah ngl i love this site for communist reasons but also dyslexia reasons. between the nonjudgement/assumptions of good faith and the million emotes, communicating here is so much less scary than everywhere else online

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

smuglord well actually

[–] stigsbandit34z@hexbear.net 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I have typed so many statements with missing information that when reread didn’t quite make sense and have never been called out

rat-salute-2

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Lol I usually get like a dozen up votes anyway, even if one of the key words in the post autocorrected to something completely unrelated

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

People are better than I would have assumed at figuring out what I meant when I've deleted 3/4ths of a word

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

oh yeah no same, I'm constantly proofing my own posts, either for flow or just general grammar mishaps. I've got it in my head–semi-fallaciously–that I have above-average English grammar for my demographic (that being undergrad first-language American) but I'm always brought back down to earth when I, once again, type seperate instead of separate, or something along those lines

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The only memory I have of being corrected on grammar was when Emizeko corrected the title of my first Soviet gulag post because i spelt the title with "penial" instead of saying "Penal"

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 20 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I've worked with a north African person for the past few months, and they switch 'b' for 'p' all the time. It never stops throwing me off for a second.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago
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[–] this_dude_eating_beans@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

i am a strong believer that if intent and meaning is able to be interpreted from what you write, then structure and delivery or grammar isn't as important. I know a lot of grammer/english nerds will scoff at this but I don't give a shit. My favorite shit is those crazy ramblings or scribbled ideas that are only marginally connected to each other. Like the kind of unstructured ideas jotted down in a notebook with little to no structure. Love that shit.

[–] blunder@hexbear.net 16 points 6 months ago

I love writing and I get great joy from well written work, and if I find typos or errors in a book I'm very put off by them.

This, on the other hand, is a shitposting website. Anyone who shows linguistic pretentiousness while being one click away from fucking PPB is a nerd and should be bullied. Also not everyone's first language is English and not everyone has had the opportunity to study it to the same level.

First rule of knowing something: it doesn't make you better than people who don't!

Also language is flexible and constantly evolving. If the listener understands the speaker, the language was correct.

(anyone watch Simon Roper's videos on YouTube? Dude studies linguistics of English from all periods of history, but he's so chill about it)

[–] AnExcellentSteelHorse@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago

Pedantic correction of spelling and grammar?

Wedontdothathere.jpg

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

I appreciate this aspect of the community as well.

I think that most people have the ability to gather context queues and understand that I meant “their” but typed “there”.

Correcting people’s grammar when the context is already understood is such “smartest person in the room”, libshit behavior. I hate it so much and get so mad at my friends for doing it. There is no reason to break up the flow of conversation just to call out my honest typo and prove they are better at dumb English than I am or whatever.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 12 points 6 months ago

There’s no such thing as grammar communist, after all

[–] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

agreed. I've been here for awhile now and I've noticed that I'm wayyyyy more relaxed typing here than anywhere else online. Feels like I can let my guard down and sorta ramble without anyone coming after me for saying something that doesn't make 100% sense.

Basically thanks for letting me vibe post, it's chill as hell

[–] miz@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I'm sorry for the moments where the impulse has gotten the better of me, I try to spoiler tag appropriately. I just want to help!

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[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I feel a strong compulsion to point out that the title of your post should have a period at the end. If it weren't about grammar I wouldn't have noticed.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 11 points 6 months ago

Most style guides seem to indicate against including periods in headlines and titles as a general rule.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

this is because i have a mortar trained on whoever even thinks about correcting my shitass gramar/spelling unasked for frog-no-pretext

[–] Thorngraff_Ironbeard@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

*You're're've

[–] crime@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

caring about grammar in casual contexts is cop behavior, do whatever you want with punctuation it's not hurting anyone

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 6 points 6 months ago

the-pigs All units in area proceed to a 438 in progress (unlawful punctuation and capitalization practices).

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if correcting spelling is just becoming less common in general on the internet.

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago

linguistically the internet has been revolutionary. Having so much access to so many different dialects, spellings, and unique vocabulary has totally destroyed the concept of a "standardised" language outside of academia. At least for English.

Supposedly French is being turned inside out with how the internet has been able to decentralise language development that was once a monopoly under the french language authorities.

Either way, the internet and social media has had the (imo good) effect of helping language develop through creating common meaning. it is one of the few areas of society that has totally shattered the neoliberal idea of history.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I will admit that I am anal around people using words correctly, like not vulgarizing 'gaslighting ' to mean 'having a different opinion based off of a different interpretation of events.' but I could care less about grammar.

[–] josie@vegantheoryclub.org 7 points 6 months ago

I just don't care about grammar lol, English is a stupid language anyway

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