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Open-source intelligence analysts reported that Crooks didn’t appear to use mainstream social media channels such as Facebook or Instagram and had an almost negligible internet footprint, which is highly unusual for a 20-year-old. Instead, analysts said that Crooks corresponded with friends and associates on a Discord server that they were now trying to access.

Discord servers are restricted ring-fenced sections of the internet. They are often used by gaming groups and communities as secure chat rooms but are also used by fringe organisations to push their ideologies and discuss wild conspiracy theories and plots.

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[–] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 133 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I feel like it’s not that weird for a 20 year old not to have a Facebook and only use Discord.

[–] KurtVonnegut@hexbear.net 107 points 2 months ago

He also played a violent new video game that has just recently been discovered, called "Fortnite," and described himself as having "skibidi rizz" but not being a "sussy baka." These slang terms are gang lingo used by only the most dangerous terrorists.

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[–] buh@hexbear.net 98 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

he was The One Never-Trump Republican democrats are always trying to convince

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 64 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Shameful that the libs have thrown him under the bus like this.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 months ago

If the same thing happened to Biden I'm almost certain mainstream Republicans would be saying things like "this is the people standing up against the woke mob, God Bless Them!"

[–] Darth_Reagan@hexbear.net 94 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Facebook or Instagram and had an almost negligible internet footprint, which is highly unusual for a 20-year-old. Instead, analysts said that Crooks corresponded with friends and associates on a Discord server that they were now trying to access.

The kids aren't using facebook, and a lot of them also aren't using Instagram. A 20 year old man using primarily discord is the most normal thing.

[–] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"intelligence" ""analyst"" being paid 6 figures to be absolutely fucking stupid and useless

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[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 80 points 2 months ago (3 children)

First it was the nefarious CCP using TikTok to indoctrinate the naive youth into not liking genocide.

Now it's the dangerous shady Discord servers allowing extremists (from both sides) to plot against Our Democracy™.

I would not be surprised to see some sort of police state crackdown on Discord and other non-public parts of the internet resulting from this.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 86 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Discord will have his data served up on a platter in no time. I don't see anything changing because they already cooperate with the state heavily.

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[–] BoxedFenders@hexbear.net 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Isn't 4chan basically supervised by Feds at this point? The NSA already have access to Facebook and Google so it goes without saying that Discord is next. They want to ban TikTok because they can't gain that level of access to their user data.

Why don't zoomers rediscover Usenet and IRC? Can't rely on corporate platforms at all.

[–] Big_Bob@hexbear.net 47 points 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure I remember moot himself saying that he cooperated with law enforcement when they demanded IP adresses every time some 4channer broke the law.

It was from a court transcript somewhere, but you're absolutely correct in assuming 4chan is heavily monitored and participated in by law enforcers, government officials and far right recruiters.

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[–] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 31 points 2 months ago

I was thinking the same thing. It’s kind of the next logical step for platforms that have locked their users onto their sites. What good is a walled garden internet if you can’t link 100% of your users to real world consumers. Hello TSA internet.

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 80 points 2 months ago (6 children)

The FBI says it has not yet identified a motive for the shooting

I suggest checking the last ~6-12 months of his 4chan history. Key word searches to try: "Trump Zionist" "Kushner" "Fuentes"

I suppose on the positive side, probably some of the clammiest, palest groypers in existence will be getting some door knocks in coming weeks and months.

On the extremely negative side, if the guy is 100% confirmed a groyper and his motive is anything in the realm of "Trump supports Israel" or whatever... ain't gonna be good for future anti-Zionist movements.

Not that the future was ever bright considering how they've reacted to peaceful sit-ins. But yeah, anything groyper related and against Israel (for explicitly antisemitic reasons) will be lumped with anti-imperialism/anti-genocide related resistance to Israel. Very convenient packaging to barrel right past the unavoidable truth of the peaceful nature thus far of anti-Zionist moments. Yes it's totally nonsensical, but if it aids Zionist narratives that both parties share, it's too tempting.

[–] rainpizza@lemmygrad.ml 71 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Apparently the shooter said the following in his twitter bio before it got scrubbed: "on a mission from God (cross emoji) to end Epstien's evil empire"

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 57 points 2 months ago (8 children)

If you're telling the truth then I called it last night when I said the shooter was a disillusioned QAnon-Head mad at Trump. I mean it's easy to guess because they're the only ones who are armed and do adventurism.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

lmao a lot of us joked about it it, I didn't think that'd actually be the case

Reality itself is unserious, it seems

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Something similar was my first though when I read the news this morning. QAnon has fractured in some bizarre and spectacular ways since Jan 6th especially and there's any number of reasons some of those rabbit-holed spin-offs don't like Trump now

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago

Trump's own little monsters now coming for zaddy.

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[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago (3 children)

so he did have an internet presence...?

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[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was seeing a ton of fake stuff posted trying to frame him as like antifa and such last night, so I will stand by waiting for more on that type of stuff before really forming opinions on it.

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[–] crispy_lol@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago (9 children)

pretty clearly faked, check the Epstein reddit, top comments sleuthed out the fact it has 0 posts, photoshopped the shooter's face onto a different pic, etc

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[–] healthkick@hexbear.net 78 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Rabidly pro-Ukraine?

Wanted to kickstart helterskelter?

Trump was too left for his tastes?

Trump was too right for this Romneyite?

Gamer just wanted to get a Wikipedia page?

[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 51 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Trump was too right for this Romneyite?

The militant Mormon uprising has begun. Salt Lake City will stand for 1000 years.

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[–] SnAgCu@hexbear.net 73 points 2 months ago

the "Chinese shooter" revealed to be...

white guy in demolition ranch merch internet-delenda-est

cool, thanks for that NYPost

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 71 points 2 months ago (2 children)

“Open source intelligence analysts”

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 60 points 2 months ago

"Redditors and Twitter users" just doesn't have the same ring to it, y'know?

[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 52 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's just how you say "hack journalists who googled 'Thomas Matthew Crooks Facebook' for five minutes" when you've watched too much Mr. Robot.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 69 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I'm revising my guess at motivations to being more like a school shooter but against a cool target.

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's super cool how the US is so depoliticized that this guy is just some random 20 year old groyper who yelled "hold my beer" and thnere's no revolutionary cells or organized falandrists or anything.

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[–] Torenico@hexbear.net 68 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Discord servers are restricted ring-fenced sections of the internet. They are often used by gaming groups and communities as secure chat rooms but are also used by fringe organisations to push their ideologies and discuss wild conspiracy theories and plots.

Fuck, they know about our discord where we push for a Protracted People's War in the United SStates of AmeriKKKa.

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 46 points 2 months ago (6 children)

as secure chat rooms

Nobody is using a Discord server as a "secure" chat room. What is that even supposed to mean?

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[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 68 points 2 months ago

Crook’s father told CNN he was trying to find out “what the hell” was going on but that he would talk to law enforcement before speaking about his son.

Mr Carriker reposted the photo of members of the US security forces standing over Crooks’ dead body, wearing the grey Demolition Ranch t-shirt.

What the hell?” he wrote underneath the photo.

illuminati

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 66 points 2 months ago (1 children)

On one side I am totally unsurprised, but on the other side I was hoping this was going to be the worlds first instance of a lib with a spine. I don't know why I got my hopes up

[–] TillieNeuen@hexbear.net 61 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There can only be one liberal driller

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago (1 children)

the liberal driller wouldn't have missed

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago

The Liberal Driller let's trouble come to him

Then he makes sure it troubles no one ever again

[–] That_Devil_Girl@lemmy.ml 61 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The Republican party is full of, and run by, crazies. Trying to find a coherent motive for this assassination attempt might not be possible.

[–] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 47 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Incoherence has never stopped them from finding scapegoats before, so why now?

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[–] CDommunist@hexbear.net 59 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 42 points 2 months ago

Forgive me comrade!

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 55 points 2 months ago (3 children)

The bit about Discord is weird, it's not like it's some decentralized service, the company has access to everything on their servers if they want to.

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[–] communism@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 months ago

Of course the photo of him is from his school yearbook. He's white after all

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 46 points 2 months ago

He was a G*mer.

[–] SSJMarx@lemm.ee 45 points 2 months ago (1 children)

who was relentlessly teased about his appearance

Well now he's being relentlessly teased for his aim, some might call that progress.

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[–] CommCat@hexbear.net 44 points 2 months ago

Maybe he was trying to restore the Habsburg throne

[–] cricbuzz@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

T-shirt says "Kollege Kidd"

Confirmed Maoist?

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

Klanner that thought being orange was not allowed either

Or is that too lib a joke

[–] O__O@hexbear.net 39 points 2 months ago

Basically the telegraph and all other rags have been trying to use his Facebook profile or other social media for free stories and photos they can use, but came up with fuck all. Excellent

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago (3 children)

and absolutely horrible shot, from that distance you shouldn't even need optics

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[–] LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA@hexbear.net 34 points 2 months ago

New video on r/crazyfuckingvideos purportedly shows him screaming about killing fascists. It does kinda look like him, but the video has about 7 pixels so who fuckin knows. Doesn't matter either way, they're never gonna get it pinned on anyone but libs, whether he was a registered Republican or not

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