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Top Trump official Stephen Miller's recent declaration that anyone who "preaches hate for America" will face deportation has ignited alarm online, with critics warning the statement disregards First Amendment protections.

Social media users and legal analysts raised immediate concerns, pointing out that expressing dissent or criticism of the government is protected under the First Amendment. Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

The backlash has reignited broader debates over the limits of free speech, especially as civil liberties fall under scrutiny. While immigration enforcement remains a core theme of President Donald Trump's platform, critics are increasingly questioning whether rhetoric like Miller's is a precursor to more aggressive suppression of dissent.

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 1 points 13 minutes ago (1 children)

If they destroy the first, use the second. That's why it was ratified!

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 minute ago

It wasn't. At all. And you can clearly see armed people aren't lining up to stop a clearly lawless authoritarian tyrant from holding power over them.

[–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 28 minutes ago

"Veering into authoritarian territory"?! They set course for that the moment he was sworn in and floored it, have you not been paying attention?!

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 51 minutes ago

kinda like how SA have banned LGBTq, immediately deports people if they come out.

[–] Prethoryn@lemmy.world 13 points 2 hours ago

Some worried the administration was veering into an authoritarian territory.

Yeah no fucking shit. It has been happening since he got into office you fucking dipshits.

[–] fireduck@lem.trashbrain.org 9 points 3 hours ago

Skipping the first amendment would be making some speech illegal. With like a law and courts. They are also skipping the 5th, which would be due process.

[–] p3n@lemmy.world 13 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I can hardly believe that we have devolved so far, so quickly. We are literally one step away from becoming an authoritarian dictatorship. The plan is this:

  1. Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) immigrants. These immigrants will mostly be legitimately illegal and gang associated criminals, but there will be a few individuals with legal standing and no criminal records. This could simply be the result of denying due process, or it could be an intentional test. The important factor is that 5th Amendment Due process rights are denied to all of them. The fact that these people (but be sure to de-humanize them as much as possible) are immigrants will be the distracting factor. <---- We are here

  2. Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) criminals. These will be legitimate criminals with legitimately horrible records; that will be the distracting issue that will be made the focus of the argument: "They are serial killers, rapists, pedophiles, we don't want them here, so we should get rid of them." This has already been announced as the plan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUfrwWz-m5I . That is not the point! The point is that they are still U.S. citizens, despite their crimes. The significance of this is that it will be the final barrier that needs to be broken, and the final protection that must be dismantled for the final solution to be enacted. If no one steps up and successfully defends the constitutional rights of these American citizens, then all the pieces will be in place for step 3.

  3. Deport (and by deport, they mean imprison for life) political dissidents, rivals, business opponents, and maybe just anyone the administration doesn't like. If they are political dissidents they will claim that they have committed crimes like, "hate speech against America(TM)", if they are a minority, they will be "associated with gangs", if they are business rivals it will have committed "economic terrorism", or something like that. It doesn't really matter because they eliminated due process in step 1 (remember that was the important factor, not the immigrant dis-tractor), and without due process they don't have to prove any crimes. Our last defense would have been the simple fact that we are American Citizens, but we established that doesn't matter in step 2 because they were "bad people", but now the "bad people" are whoever the administration decides is bad.

The context of the 5th amendment is important to understand its intent:

Historically, the Fifth Amendment draws significant influence from English common law. The grand jury clause specifically dates back to the Magna Carta, and was designed to protect accused persons from prosecution by the English royalty. In keeping with that intention, the Constitution’s framers opted to adapt the grand jury to the Constitution, so as to protect citizens from prosecution by the federal government.
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Even in a Monarchy, which is not the form of government we are supposed to have, the Magna Carta offered protections against the King from prosecuting commoners, which is the origin of this amendment. We aren't just devolving to pre-revolution America, which had enough disagreements with the rule of King George III that it sparked a war...no we are devolving to a pre-Magna Carta England type of Government. We are descending into middle-age feudalism with complete authoritarian rule.... and we aren't fortunate enough to have a dictator like Alfred the Great.

[–] Ton@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 43 minutes ago

thiel unlike many other billionaire seems to stay out of the spotlight, because they dont want attention upon themselves, hes a mastermind of TRUMP through vance. thiel being GAY also makes him a big target if hes in the news too many times. one of the reasons he went after gawker by using hogan as intermediary.

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

Just for the record, I hate America and I think you should too.

[–] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

He's been in office 3 months. Please kill me, make it quick

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago

Just start yelling about supporting Palestine. It'll probably happen

[–] match@pawb.social 17 points 5 hours ago

america means freedom and diversity and immigrants. the trump administration hates america

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 16 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Why do Americans still talk about the constitution like it means something or is still relevant?

Your constitution is GONE. It's a historical artifact. It has no meaning in today's America.

All that matters now is the whim of the emotional toddler in the White House. Get used to it. He's not going until he's dead.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 2 points 44 minutes ago

They can't grasp that they will have to pick up arms to get their country back and they'll fight you about it too.

[–] Auzy@aussie.zone 11 points 6 hours ago

Put Trump and his family on the first boat then..

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 26 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

I love America… I fucking hate Trump, MAGA and the GOP.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Make America Free Again!!!

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

America gave you Trump, MAGA and the GOP.

[–] RootAccess@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

As we all know, a person defines themselves through their actions. So does a country.

Imho, saying Trump(ism) isn't America is like people who do evil, but still think they are good people. Admitting you have a problem is the first step in getting better. You need to hate what America has become. Shifting the blame to the current administration just lets people feel good about themselves. They shouldn't. There is work to do.

The second step is meeting up with others in your community already working to fix it.

[–] intheformbelow@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yep. At least 30% of americans supported this maga crap while the majority did nothing to stop him. As a Canadian, I'm not going to distinguish between those who supported trump and those who didn't care enough to stop him. Both are equally responsible, and both must pay the price. Personally, i'm hoping the price will be so great that the US will split apart. Of course, Canada alone won't make the US disappear, but the world united against the US absolutely will.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 41 minutes ago

also haver to point out voter suppression works either through propaganda or straight up legislation,

[–] FrChazzz@lemm.ee 6 points 7 hours ago

But in his mind “Trump = America”

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[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 44 points 9 hours ago (9 children)

Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

Oh good, you're finally awake. Let's get you caught up on the last six months.

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[–] LowQualityGoods@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Does that mean they can deport Trump?

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 5 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Hello...? ACLU? Journalists? Lawyers?Congresspeople? Senators? It's the 1st Amendment. The very first one! They should be suing this administration and blasting this out every single day. And we all should be calling our representatives every day, marching, and protesting. To start. Our democracy and country is being strangled, and the silence is deafening.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 0 points 40 minutes ago

All you have left is to literally fight. No court or paperwork will help you. Proven repeatedly yet you grasp at something that hasn't existed for some time.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I think we are a little bit past lawsuits and the ACLU. The rule of law is dead. Now there is only action and consequence.

Dems are captured oposition. Best you can hope for now is state seccessions or a military coup/junta. Baring that, you won't believe how bad things are going to get.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 42 minutes ago

the DINOs are essentially republicans that would never get elected as an R, so they pretend to be on the otherside, and they would like to keep the money train going with trump in power, because they benefit from it too.

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Best hope is still Americans getting together and organizing civil society to oppose the trump administration.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

More than half of American voted FOR this. I think you're misjudging the severity of the situation.

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 hours ago

More than half of American voted FOR this. I think you're misjudging the severity of the situation.

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Everyone is suing. They’re ignoring the courts and suing news agencies that are telling the truth

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 27 points 9 hours ago (19 children)

Come get me asshole! I’ve hated this place since cancers like you were allowed to infect our politics.

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[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

it's just yo scare you into complacency, you can say anything in a speech

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[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 116 points 13 hours ago (17 children)

To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. -Theodore Roosevelt

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