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[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 61 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Despite making up only 1% of Japan's land mass, Ryukyu (Okinawa) hosts 70% of US military bases in Japan.

US military bases cover about 25% of the land area of the main island of Ryukyu.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 39 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 52 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Extremely. Most people in Ryukyu want US bases off their island but the government in Tokyo continues to not give a fuck.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 41 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sounds similar to the situation here in Aus with Pine Gap and the way the First Australians are treated.

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 8 months ago

The LDP was created and is still funded to this day by CIA. Everybody knows it

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 58 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Westerners do not care about indigenous or minorities of other countries. As far as they concerned, they’re all part of the same race/ethnicity/culture. E.g. “Ainu people are still Asians which means it homogenous!!!” or “Pashtun? Tajik? I don’t care! They’re all freaking afghani Muslims!”

Only the west is “not homogenous” because white people can only tell you apart if you stand next to them and your skin is darker.

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Only the west is “not homogenous” because white people can only tell you apart if you stand next to them and your skin is darker.

it's also because they like making up pretend ethnicities like Moldoslovasconian and shit like that while knowing nothing about the rest of the world

"uhh....they're just all Indian!"

"yea I'm not a huge fan of European food"
"WTF DO YOU MEAN THERE'S GERMAN AND FRENCH AND AND MACEDONIAN AND

[–] bloubz@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Your peers really talk about "European food"? Damn

To be fair the only food I know and talk about from the US is Tex-Mex

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 22 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Conceptually, why not? People talk about "Chinese food" despite China being geographically the size of Europe and having at least 8 distinct and recognized styles of cuisine that are at least as different from each other as French is to Italian.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

I think the difference there is that when americrackers talk about "Chinese food" they're very specifically and exclusively talking about the Americanized Cantonese cuisine that's available broadly. The other cuisines are entirely unknown as they do not exist outside of a small handful of restaurants in only a couple of major cities, and are largely only available on a phantom menu in those restaurants. The same also happens with "Indian food," which almost universally refers to an Americanized version of Mughlai cuisine, with maybe a couple Americanized items from Udupi cuisine.

Americanized Euro cuisines had a very diferent thing happen and just like there is no monolithic "Chinese Food" or "Indian Food," there is no "French Food" or "Italian Food." No nation, no culture, no cuisine is monolithic. The difference is that the cuisines of European nations were blended into a generalized version, rather than one specific cuisine being the only one represented.

The confusion and conflation of national cuisines that seems to frustrate people so has an unfortunate but material reason for existing. That reason being 20th century immigration patterns. Immigrants brought with them food and culture that was then smushed into a little generalized box blended on high as immigrants were largely segregated by national origin and particularly by language.

European nations were devastated by the two world wars, with immigrants from virtually every geographic area of every affected nation arriving in the US. Many immigrants from other continents were severely restricted or outright banned from immigrating to the US up until 1965. Virtually all Chinese immigrants up until the ban in 1924 came from Taishan City, Guangdong and consequently brought Cantonese food. Up until 1965, Indian immigration to the US was nearly non-existent due to blanket ineligibility for naturalization, and virtually all Indian-Americans either immigrated from Canada or descended from those who did. Indian cuisine in the US has largely been copied from British-Indian cuisine, which itself is largely a product of immigration from Pakistan, Bangladesh, and northern India, hence why north Indian cuisine is outsized in its representation.

I understand you're just making up a guy to get mad at, but it's hard to blame individuals for being unaware and uninformed about cuisine that's likely only available hundreds of miles away from their home, especially when virtually all other common national cuisines are massively blended versions of the entire nation's cuisine.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not getting mad at anyone, sorry if it sounded like I was.

I understand the material reasons behind how people perceive foreign cuisine. The further away from a place the less granularity you hold for it in your mind most of the time. It's very common for Chinese and Japanese people to talk about "western food" which is an expansive category covering everything from pasta to baguettes to burgers to borscht.

[–] EmmaGoldman@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

No worries comrade, just a misunderstanding. Was fun to type up!

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It's particularly funny since here in Aus at least three types are easily recognisable, along with the suburbs you go to eat them. And that's just coastal Han Cuisine. Meanwhile in Germany the "Asian Restaurant" served up Sushi and Dim Sims at the same time.

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[–] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Every now and again you hear about people opening a "Chinese food" resteraunt in China. The locals are confused and the tourists are amazed.

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[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

Advanced European racism technology is required to allow for the kind of distinctions that allow the Dutch to be racist against Limburgs

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've never heard anyone say "European food" before. Italian, Greek, German, sure.

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[–] Catfish@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Japan also has a very concerning 99% conviction rate.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That's a stat that gets trotted out when a Cracker gets indicted for a crime in Japan and the Westoid media wants to weasel them out of it by accusing the Japanese justice system of being corrupt or unfair or whatever.

The articles who harp on about this 99% rate seldom stop to tell you that American Federal Courts often convict in the 99.8% range (pdf), or that the UK convicts somewhere in the 80 to 85% range.

Of course the Japanese justice system is broken in many ways, but it's not helpful to keep repeating this number like it means anything, especially when Japanese prosecutors indict at rates lower than American and English ones.

[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago

China also has around the same conviction rates as Japan because indictments get withdrawn if acquittal is on the cards. I think there's definitely problems with that kind of approach, but just pointing out the stats doesn't paint the whole picture.

[–] Great_Leader_Is_Dead@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)

So I guess this is like the "age of consent in Japan is 13!!!" Thing.

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[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's literally what Ace Attorney is a Statement about for the most part and why prosecutors are the bad guys in that series

[–] VILenin@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

Ironically, he arguably has the cleanest hands of any prosecutor in the series

[–] Omegamint@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

Deeply sad how much Japanese media points out these major issues with their society and it seems like it’s all shrugged at. The prevalence of dire working conditions and how that gets portrayed as essentially something that’s just a fact of life is just shitty. Guess that’s what happens when the US helps utterly crush all socialist/labor movements during occupation

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 19 points 8 months ago

thats partly because they don't typically go to court unless they know for sure the case is a guilty case. they send the easy guilty cases to court. it's shown by their relatively low indictment rate (implying they're very selective on which cases go to court)

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago

Weebs will complain about evil authoritarian China but then jerk of to single party state monarchist Japan with a 99% conviction rate

[–] ElGosso@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

I can't be assed to reply to every single one of the replies here but the Japanese criminal justice system will hold you without bail indefinitely in order to extract a confession.

[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Japan: has fully funded social welfare, cheap housing, job placement programs, city services etc that keep desperate people from turning to crime.

Westerners: "Basically it's because they're racist and that's a good thing."

Japan aint perfect but in my eight years of living there I noticed that nobody locked their door unless they lived on an American military base.

[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 32 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There's also the Yakuza mafia problem which they completely ignore

[–] axont@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago

I was able to make a weeb get concerned about yakuza once. I told him that a lot of their money comes from Chinese real estate developers who want land in Japan. I also mentioned most yakuza senior members can trace their ancestry to impoverished Korean immigrants.

This guy started ranting blood and soil Japanese nationalism after learning that. He's a white guy from Louisiana.

[–] TheDialectic@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

Noted CIA associates by the way.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I have a Latino friend who lives in Japan. Whenever he goes around the Tokyo area cops will stop and ask him if he's lost (a way of asking if he belongs in the area). He's discovered that if he assures the cops he's actually Latino, not Filipino or Indian, the cops get visibly less tense and let him go.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago

I talked to an African American dude who lived in Japan and asked him if getting stopped was annoying. He said something like "yeah, but at least I know the Japanese cop isn't going to shoot me."

Not making excuses for Japanese cops ofc, they should go find something more productive to do than hassle random people.

[–] Omegamint@hexbear.net 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I’m very glad I’m no longer a weeb because having to interact with japanophiles who don’t see this and other problems really angers me

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The worst part is that the Japanese xenophobia/racism discourse is not focused on Zainichi Koreans/Chinese people, or Burakumin, or South and South East Asian people, or African people, or Ainu and Ryukyu people.

It's always drowned out by white guys yelling about how nobody wants to sit next to them on the train and how that's the real racism.

[–] charly4994@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

One of my first experiences ever with my Host family in Japan was the mother pulling me aside to point out the Chinese tourists and saying like they were lepers. Legit didn’t understand what the problem was or why I should care.

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

me the first time i went with a friend to visit her family on long island and found out that there are people who at a social gathering straight up will say that they don't like jews

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That one weeb Podcaster Garnt has literally talked about the systemic racism and xenophobia he deals with in Japan, mainly cops, because he's ethnically Thai.

[–] DanComrd@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah, a fellow trashman perhaps? hentai-free

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago

Rarely nowadays

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago

but it's okay because animes is so cool, amirite, my fellow otakus???

[–] SocialistWombat@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The existence of the Burakumin proves to me that in the absence of an out-group to discriminate against, a people will artificially create one

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Except it's not "they didn't have anyone to discriminate against - so they invented a group", it was class based to keep people in those jobs be excluded from almost everything else and exploit their labor that way.

[–] Bloobish@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

Yup, legit just a group that did the jobs everyone considered "unclean" but was also vital for society (i.e. butchers, tanners, trash collectors, etc). Blood based class systems are legit just old timey artificial racism (i.e. creating outgroups)

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[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

"But there are barely any Ainu people left" -Some Lib

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[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

The Japanese government has been pretty shitty to the Ryukyu and Ainu peoples, tho. They act like a settler state sometimes when it comes to dealing with indigenous peoples.

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